1. Cam should have jumped on the ball. 2. Cam shouldn't have walked out postgame. 3. Saying that doesn't make you a hater.

[rayzor]

6 minutes ago, 15 said:

One of the only? 

yeah, i was shaking my head at that one as well. the board was pretty evenly split, but let's not let truth get in the way of a good attempt at trying to put a guy on a pedestal.

SMF has made me SMH more than just about anyone in here, even you.

[TheRed]

Sam Mills Fan is a slightly more intelligent PanthersUnited.

Just revoke his thread privileges, and we can all be on our way.

[motocross_cat]

With out cam this team does not even win the division IMO. Maybe im one of the few but if him being a sore loser is the worst thing you can pin on him while leading the team to the superbowl im totally fine with it.  Some people need to get a life.  

[TKPanthers1990]

"The iron at play here, is that to demand another person show the humility WE desire them to, is the very height of hubris. It takes a tremendous ego to believe you're qualified to renovate another human being into your image."

John Pavlovitz wrote a great article on this..I highly suggest it.

Cam is always going to be the person that people are going to love watch fall. He seems to be ok with it. The problem doesn't lie with Cam.

[rayzor]

I can't be the only one who grimaces every time he sees Sam Mills name associated with SMF. 

[top dawg]

8 hours ago, King said:

SMF was one of the only posters advocating to draft Newton when the vast majority of the Huddle wanted nothing to do with him.

He's earned the right to criticize him.

I wanted to draft him too, and I have supported Cam all along. I don't think SMF has been overly critical---or unduly critical---on Cam.  There were way more critical things said about Cam at that time, and some of these same people attempting to mock SMF, JOAT and others on here fed into that general anti-Cam sentiment before he put on the uniform.  

As a fan, I don't believe that you have to "earn" the right to constructively criticize Cam. I feel that all the players are fair game in reference to their professionalism on and off the field. Truth be told, you don't have to "earn" the right to criticize him or any player at all (as we have seen non-fans do time and time again).  But, as a true fan, I think that it's in good decorum to criticize responsibly and respectfully. I feel that as Huddlers, we should treat other Huddlers the same way, but clowns---some of the same ones who didn't want anything to do with Cam then, are some of the same ones who "destuctively" criticize SMF, JOAT and others now---make it very difficult to be respectful now. 

 

I don't have a problem with Cam not jumping on the ball. It's a judgment call that he had to make in the heat of battle. He wanted to keep the play alive in order to make a play, but the positioning of his body was awkward. End of story.  As for handling the media with a little more decorum and professionalism, I wish that he had. It's really an expectation of the job for all of the NFL. Cam is feeding the trolls and those other honest, decent and good reporters who are rightfully stating their opinion---one based on what is fairly obvious based upon the social and professional norms of interaction between the media and the NFL.

[TheRed]

3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I can't be the only one who grimaces every time he sees Sam Mills name associated with SMF. 

That too.

Associating his fairweather mentality with the name of Sam Mills should be enough to warrant at bare minimum, one swift kick to the nuts.

[Cookie Lyon]

6 minutes ago, TKPanthers1990 said:

"The iron at play here, is that to demand another person show the humility WE desire them to, is the very height of hubris. It takes a tremendous ego to believe you're qualified to renovate another human being into your image."

John Pavlovitz wrote a great article on this..I highly suggest it.

Cam is always going to be the person that people are going to love watch fall. He seems to be ok with it. The problem doesn't lie with Cam.

I read John Pavlovitz article as well and I enjoyed it.

He made a lot of great points.

[TheRed]

The bottom line is this.

Cam didn't have a good game. Our offense as a whole did not have a good game. Cam knows that he made mistakes, and ultimately those mistakes paired with numerous others led to losing the Super Bowl. That is what it boils down to, all this stupid poo about jumping on a loose ball is just fodder for feeble minds like the OP.

Going beyond that, with taking the above into consideration, why would he have been anything less than upset at the press conference? Especially when the other team is practically right next to him breathing down his neck talking about how he, and the offense lost their team the game.

This loss was a make or break moment for any team. What we've seen from our group so far would indicate that this will be fuel for a fire that will be burning for a looooooooong time. Add Kelvin Benjamin into mix, who has been chomping at the bit, and there is plenty to be excited about as a fan.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Been posting on here since 2005 and haven't posted a negative thread about Cam since like September 2013, but yeah, I'm just like PanthersUnited lol. People are SO SO sensitive when it comes to their personal idols.

[teeray]

1 minute ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Been posting on here since 2005 and haven't posted a negative thread about Cam since like September 2013, but yeah, I'm just like PanthersUnited lol. People are SO SO sensitive when it comes to their personal idols.

We are.

We are also very sensitive when it comes to stupidity

 

[TheRed]

This guy can't stop coming back to defend himself from people calling him stupid for literally acting stupid.

But others are the "sensitive" ones. Sure... Sure.

[BigKing]

18 hours ago, teeray said:

Fair points but there is a difference between saying a guy should have made a play, and getting on him for not making one play.

I can say someone made a mistake, and be grateful for what he has done.

But if people what to get pissed at Cam, or say he doesn't have the heart of a Thomas Davis because of one play contrary to 5 years of evidence and him playing with an injured ankle, broken ribs, and broken back last season.

That is remarkably small minded, petty, and ungrateful.  Not to mention uninformed and contrary to all other evidence.

If people want to say, "meh maybe he made a mistake not diving".  OK.  No problem.

But to post pictures of Thomas Davis' arm and say Cam doesn't have the  same heart, toughness, commitment, or willingness to win is flatly absurd.  And should be called out accordingly.

The comparison to TD isn't fair to Cam: it isn't fair to anyone.  I'd say Davis has more of all those intangibles listed than any other player in the entire league.

 

 

[BigKing]

Lame...still learning the nuances of posting here.  The blurb about TD being incomparable in the post quoted above is from this message board genius right here.