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1. Cam should have jumped on the ball. 2. Cam shouldn't have walked out postgame. 3. Saying that doesn't make you a hater.


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Just now, mcdougal said:

Because we have two eyes and we see a rather large QB wearing the No. 1 on the ground fighting for the ball? He explicitly explained why he hesitated---

But last I checked, Newton did (after he made sure it was less likely he would sustain an injury) was on the ground.

Now, should Newton have hesitated? Absolutely not. It is the damn SB. Go for the ball at all costs...but it is wholly incorrect to say he didn't try to make a play.

I'm gonna value what Cam says himself more than what it "looks like" he's doing. I only heard him acknowledge the hesitation out of a fear of injury, not trying to make a play on it - unless I'm remembering the interview incorrectly, which I could be. I still love Cam but I'd be lying if I said the whole fumble ordeal didn't bother me at all.

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the replay angle is deceiving. watch the play from the end zone and look at cam's body angle, momentum, direction, and then imagine him leaving his distended pelvis to arc over his own frame to grab the ball.

spoiler: you can't do it.

such a bad thread

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Just now, nosuchthingasapanther said:

just because i don't share the same borderline psychotic admiration that some people do for a single player, doesn't mean i don't care much for that player.

although i will admit, i've never liked deangelo williams...

Before the 2015 season you would be one of the main people complaining all the time about people creating threads about our franchise quarterback.

Don't want to read about one of the faces of our franchise? Don't frequent a Panthere message board. Not difficult.

 

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1. Cam looked like he got caught up between diving for the ball and waiting for it to get punched back toward him. His "my leg was in an awkward position comment" didn't imply he was protecting his body, he was implying that he was just physically in an awkward position and couldn't get down. 

2. He certainly could have handled the post game presser better. There's always room for improvement in nearly every aspect of life. It wasn't the best thing to do, BUT it was a far cry from the shitstorm people are making out of it. 

3. Saying those things does NOT make you a hater.

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3 minutes ago, Coheed said:

I'm gonna value what Cam says himself more than what it "looks like" he's doing. I only heard him acknowledge the hesitation out of a fear of injury, not trying to make a play on it - unless I'm remembering the interview incorrectly, which I could be. I still love Cam but I'd be lying if I said the whole fumble ordeal didn't bother me at all.

You remembering it incorrectly. He didn't say he was afraid of an injury, he said he would have had to bend his leg backward the wrong way to get to it in his initial position.  In other words, it was impossible. 

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2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Before the 2015 season you would be one of the main people complaining all the time about people creating threads about our franchise quarterback.

i complained about all the threads whining about why the media wasn't worshipping newton.

the media started acknowledging his accomplishments, the whiny ass threads stopped, i stopped complaining.

 

get it right.

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I'm glad Cam walked out in that interview.   That's all that is being talked about.   This SB Is more known for the team that lost and their QB than the team that won.  

20 years from now:  Super Bowl 50? That's that game Cam walked out of the post game interview right.  Who won again? 

  

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9 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

You remembering it incorrectly. He didn't say he was afraid of an injury, he said he would have had to bend his leg backward the wrong way to get to it in his initial position.  In other words, it was impossible. 

If injury was a complete nonfactor I just don't understand why he'd bring up the whole "when QBs don't tackle interception returns" thing. Eh. I hope you're right.

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Get out of here.  Dive on a ball on 4th down?  It would have been game over dude.  Cmon man.  He was hoping the ball would pop out so he could pick it up and throw it or run with it.  Common sense.  If you dive on it and get possession, we turn the ball over on downs!  Cam stayed plenty long enough for the post game.  When he heard the Broncos bragging he couldn't take it anymore.  He owes the media nothing.  They have tried to destroy him repeatedly going back to Auburn.  He owes them nothing more than waving the Lombardi and his MVP trophies in their faces.  The media and the haters are all fake hypocrites.  Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.  Cam is a good guy and does plenty of good in the Charlotte and Atlanta communities.  Those who support him, support him for a good reason.  Not just because he is one hell of a QB.  That he is.  He is also a good human.  

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1 minute ago, Coheed said:

If injury was a complete nonfactor I just don't understand why he'd bring up the whole "when QBs don't tackle interception returns" thing. Eh. I hope you're right.

It seemed that he was using the interceptions example to refute the garbage that people have been saying doubting his effort.  It was like "you're misrepresenting what happened here, so let me give you examples from the past to prove that show how ridiculous what you're claiming happened here is."  That's how I took what he said to mean. 

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1 minute ago, PhillyB said:

and then imagine him leaving his distended pelvis to arc over his own frame to grab the ball.

Then try to dislodge it from whoever has a better angle. This is not hard. NFL players jump for balls like a good 3 seconds after it's been recovered trying to dislodge it after it's already been recovered. I haven't heard one actual player defending Cam on not going for the ball.

 

Imagine what you would be saying if Russell Wilson or Tom Brady had done the same thing. Making excuses about their "distended pelvis"? Come on.

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Greg Cosell was on FNZ this am. He goes from the tape Cam didn't make any effort  but it's up to the individual on how they feel.

It's that simple. 

And we ALL have to respect the other guy's view. I'm not gonna let someone slow my sway becaue they disagree. That's middle school. 

Are we not mere men (women) ?

 

Hug it out and relax. Bigger fish to fry going forward.

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Cam got caught out of position (over-stepped as Zod pointed out) and at that point his only choice was to risk getting his leg snapped in half for the sake of attempting to recover the ball from a very poor angle OR get his leg out of the way and hope the ball would squirt out. 

He made the right choice as far as I'm concerned. 

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