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Bill Voth: "Panthers Are Allowing Cam To Look Like A Baby."


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“It was horrible,” the BlackandBluereview.com Panthers reporter said on CBS Sports Radio’s The DA Show. “It was horrible and it was unacceptable, and they can trot out all these things about how he hates to lose. Ron Rivera today even said something about how as a public service, we shouldn’t have these guys talk right away because he just needs to gather his emotions. So wait, because Cam Newton can’t gather his emotions after a game, we’re going to ask the NFL and their billions of dollars to be like, ‘Hey, let’s just give him a couple days?’” 

No, we’re not.

Rivera added that the Panthers do not like Newton acting as he did but that they understand this is who he is – which is something a parent might say about an immature teenager.

 

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“The Panthers have played this Cam Newton stuff, I think, pretty well over his five-year career,” Voth said. “They’ve let him be who he is. They deal with his rough edges and the guy has grown up. Has it been as quickly as we’ve wanted it to be? No. So when you ask is this par for the course, if you would have asked me in his first year-and-a-half, I would have said yeah – because he was such a baby after his losses his first year-and-a-half.”

Then certain people told him he couldn’t do that anymore – or, at the very least, that it would be wise not to.

“Cam got better after losses in Year Two, and since then, he’s been better,” Voth said. “While there has been a narrative around him about how he always pouts after losses, that really stopped after the Giants loss – I believe it was Week 3 in his second year. That was really the last time we saw it until Sunday, and Sunday it reared its ugly head again and it just so happened to be on the biggest stage of American sports.”

Newton reportedly could hear the Broncos celebrating during his press conference, which reportedly set him off. Voth’s response? 

Yeah, so?

“You didn’t hear Thomas Davis complain about it or showing off or Luke Kuechly or Greg Olsen or any of these other guys,” Voth said. “It was just the one guy. There’s so many layers to this, as you know. So while we can make excuses for it and while it’s not an ideal setting, these other guys handled it professionally. The MVP of the league did not – and I think that’s a bad look. Is it something he should be so universally condemned about? No, but I think it’s fair to say, ‘Listen, you said that you celebrate and you have every right to because hey, you can stop me if you want. So when a team does, I think you got to take those bullets. You got to bite your tongue.”

 

 

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On Tuesday, however, Newton said he is not going to conform to what people want him to be. In some ways, that’s admirable. But when you’re acting like Newton did – and sometimes does – it’s not.

“Isn’t there some aspect of life when you just have to man up a little bit when things don’t go your way?” Voth asked. “And the Panthers say, ‘Well, he just doesn’t like to lose.’ Okay, so I guess he just doesn’t want to man up when things don’t go his way. So at his most basic level, he’s just going to act like a baby and we’re just going to allow him to act like a baby. I don’t think that’s a great look for the organization or the NFL.”

http://da.radio.cbssports.com/2016/02/10/panthers-writer-panthers-allowing-cam-to-look-like-a-baby/

So, this is how Bill Voth really feels about the whole situation.

What are your thoughts about what Voth had to say?

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Meh. Voth is good for content, but when it comes to selling out for publicity, he'll take this stance that he knows will get him the most attention immediately. He's no different than any of the other sports "journalists" on twitter who are only concerned about being the first to break the story rather than if it's actually legitimate or not.

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Really disappointed to hear Bill stoop this low. Whether Cam was right or wrong, it's not a big fuging deal. His teammates don't care, the coaches don't care, most of the fans don't care. That we are still talking about this on Wednesday just goes to show that the current state of sports media is an absolute poo storm of who can bring in the most clicks at the expense of EVERYTHING else. Quality reporting/content? Get the fug out of hear, no one wants to read that. Who tweeted what at whom! That's what moves the needle. It's the consumers' fault as well because for as much poo as everyone talks about Skip Bayless, people still watch.

I grew up loving sports. Now I'm starting to hate the circus that surrounds everything about it.

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I also lol'd at Voth suggesting that Newton "man up".

Dude, you report sports, and sit on social media half the day. You aren't the one putting your body on the line out there for a victory. Get your ass out there, and take a hit before popping off at the mouth about how he conducts himself as a man.

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4 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

He just sounds like this is the way he felt about Cam ever since he was drafted and Cam walking out of that press conference was his breaking point to let it all out.

 

Yep. Voth is normally good at remaining impartial - at least via his BBR handle - but after the Super Bowl that all went out the window, like he reached a breaking point. He normally airs out stuff like that via his personal account, but I guess that one doesn't have a big enough audience. 

I mentioned in another thread how this carried over to yesterday when high and mighty Voth was tweeting about certain he was that "the quarterback" probably wouldn't bother to do an exit interview, but had jack poo to say once he was proven wrong. 

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2 minutes ago, jdpanther5 said:

Yep. Voth is normally good at remaining impartial - at least via his BBR handle - but after the Super Bowl that all went out the window, like he reached a breaking point. He normally airs out stuff like that via his personal account, but I guess that one doesn't have a big enough audience. 

I mentioned in another thread how this carried over to yesterday when high and mighty Voth was tweeting about certain he was that "the quarterback" probably wouldn't bother to do an exit interview, but had jack poo to say once he was proven wrong. 

I guess since Cam proved him wrong by doing an exit interview, he decided to jump on a radio station to talk sh*t about him.

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He's just saying the same crap as everyone else.  Trying to act like he has a right to tell another grown man how to act just because he's in the media.  I'm so tired of people saying how Cam should act, everyone in life reacts differently to different things.  He lost the Superbowl.  I wonder if Voth had a chance at the biggest job promotion in his life, then loses out, and when walking out the door of the boss he has to give a press conference to the world RIGHT THEN.   It's stupid.  Players should have 24 hours or so to talk and even then, how dare he act like he has a right over Cam's behavior or feelings.  We don't own these players.   People somethings think they do and/or try to live through them.   

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