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We need a DE... so whom?


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Any idea's??  I'd say Mario Williams, but his salary is 11 millon plus. Only five sacks last year in a system that didn't fit.  He is 31 an played at NC State. He could turn it around here. Don't see D.G paying that kind of jack though. Can't wait for a draft pick to develop. What options in FA do we have?

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dolphinsb_logo.gif Olivier Vernon, DE, Dolphins. Age: 25.


Olivier Vernon's stats didn't show it, as he didn't even notch double-digit sacks, but he had a fantastic 2015 campaign, both in terms of rushing the passer and helping out against the run. Just 26 in October, Vernon has a bright future ahead of him. 

giantsb_logo.gif Robert Ayers, DE, Giants. Age: 30.


Robert Ayers is coming off his best season yet, notching nine sacks in just 12 games and being very forceful in run support. He would be a four-star player if it weren't for his age - 31 on Sept. 6 - but he should still have two strong years remaining in the tank. 
 

giantsb_logo.gif Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, Giants. Age: 27.


Jason Pierre-Paul managed just one sack in the eight games he played in 2015. Those who didn't watch him will believe that he was ineffective, but that's not true at all. Pierre-Paul put lots of pressure on opposing passers. His hand issue played a part in his deficiency in run support, but Pierre-Paul will continue to serve as a dynamic pass-rusher. 
 

chiefsb_logo.gif Tamba Hali, DE/OLB, Chiefs. Age: 32.


Tamba Hali is still one of the top edge rushers in the NFL, but he just turned 32. He should still have a strong season or two remaining, but he's going to be slowing down soon. 

 

ramsb_logo.gif William Hayes, DE, Rams. Age: 31.

 
Everyone knows about Robert Quinn, Aaron Donald and Chris Long, but William Hayes has been a solid player on St. Louis' defensive front as well. Hayes gets solid pressure on opposing quarterbacks and even happens to be better in run support. Unfortunately, he turns 31 in May, so he doesn't have many strong seasons remaining. 
 

lionsb_logo.gif Jason Jones, DE, Lions. Age: 30.


Jason Jones has never been the same since tearing his patellar tendon a couple of years ago, but he was decent in 2015. He didn't really show any weaknesses in his game, though he wasn't overly forceful. 
 

cowboysb_logo.gif Greg Hardy, DE, Cowboys. Age: 28.

 
This was a difficult one to rate. Greg Hardy is one of the most talented pass-rushers in the NFL. Based on skill alone, he'd be a 4.5-star player. However, he's an absolute scumbag and a horrible teammate. He's bad for any locker room, so any team that signs him needs to be sure that the other 52 players can handle his crap. 

This is per http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2016DE.php

 

There are also speculation about those who will be cut and those could be Cameron Wake of the Dolphins, Mario Williams of the Bills, among other players which we won't know until later when they are actually cut. 

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So are we giving up on Frank Alexander?  I know he's finished with his rookie deal and I haven't seen any news about an extension.

The guy showed some flashes and we know him and he knows us.  He didn't beat up any women so if the weed is the worst thing he's done, what do you think?

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6 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

So are we giving up on Frank Alexander?  I know he's finished with his rookie deal and I haven't seen any news about an extension.

The guy showed some flashes and we know him and he knows us.  He didn't beat up any women so if the weed is the worst thing he's done, what do you think?

The best ability for a football player is availability.

He has shown over and over that you can't trust him to be available.

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4 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

So are we giving up on Frank Alexander?  I know he's finished with his rookie deal and I haven't seen any news about an extension.

The guy showed some flashes and we know him and he knows us.  He didn't beat up any women so if the weed is the worst thing he's done, what do you think?

I'm not positive but I think his last suspension was for 1 year, meaning he can't come back until November. Also, he is coming off an achilles tear which is typically one of the more difficult injuries, from which to recover.

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