Brandon Marshall:"Panthers did everything we saw on film"

[BIGH2001]

Yeah it's easy for the Broncos to say they saw it all coming.  It's not secret what we want to do on offense.  A good offense isn't good because of deception.  It's good because the players execute the plays called on a consistent basis.  Bad play calling didn't result in us leading the league in points scored this year.  The bottom line is we handed the game to Denver on a silver platter with mistakes we haven't made since the middle of 2014.  All year this team has just lined up and shoved it down the opponents throat.  The other opponents knew what was coming too, they just couldn't stop it.

[SZ James (banned)]

yeah how come the offense couldn't just overcome the fact that a retarded wooly monkey could predict our plays?

[pstall]

10 minutes ago, tondi said:

We should never get Cam to the line of scrimmage with less than 10 seconds on the play clock.  Seems like every terrible play that happened this year occurred on a rushed snap.  I thought we had put this issue to rest but it reared its ugly head again in the SB with Cam getting to the line of scrimmage with only a few seconds left on the clock on many occasions.  Don't know where the issue lies but we need to get it corrected permanently.

I agree. Has anyone from the media asked anyone this? Was Shula asked?

[Seltzer]

Just now, tondi said:

We should never get Cam to the line of scrimmage with less than 10 seconds on the pay clock.  Seems like every terrible play that happened this year occurred on a rushed snap.  I thought we had put this issue to rest but it reared its ugly head again in the SB with Cam getting to the line of scrimmage with only a few seconds left on the clock on many occasions.  Don't know where the issue lies but we need to get it corrected permanently.

You are right about this.  This rarely happened throughout the year, and it did a lot during the SB.  And that is related to Shula and the coaching staff.  I am not trying to exonerate the coaching staff or Shula.  Ultimately, they are responsible for the performance of the team.  It's just easy to blame Shula since we lost and the offense played so poorly, but Shula didn't make Tolbert fumble twice, and Ginn & Cotchery drop passes.

I do believe with Shula there is this misguided idea that somehow he doesn't care since he's not very fiery.  Can you imagine growing up in that family and having to, fair or not, being compared to your father all the time?

Shula may not be best OC, but what he was able to accomplish this year was remarkable.  Literally no one saw this coming.  And it wasn't all in spite of Shula either.  It's always hard to have perspective after something like this, but the idea that Shula should be blamed or fired for that matter makes no logical sense.

 

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10 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

I didn't go back to count exactly how many mistake we made because I can't bring myself to rewatch it just yet, but your point is spot on.  Those are a LOT of mistakes the Panthers made that they didn't typically make.  The 4 fumbles will haunt me forever.  Even with our own dominant defensive performance that gets lost in the wash, it would be hard to overcome that against any opponent, much less a team like the Broncos.

I told a guy at work a similar thing. It was 2014 all over again and any mistake we made hurt us.

I mentioned this elsewhere.  Even if Cam fumbles between the 30's, chances are Denver doesn't even score.The d was that good.

One less dropped pass or turnover or penalties and who knows.

[Matthias]

This dude talking like he is John Lynch and the Bucs from Superbowl 37.  They supposedly knew what we were doing and yet, if it weren't for Tolbert fumbling the ball and Cotchery dropping a key pass down by the goaline, we would have easily won.  I'm giving them the force fumbles that lead to touchdowns for them.  So in the end, even if they "knew" what we were doing, they had a bit of trouble stopping it at times.

[TheRed]

5 minutes ago, SZ James (banned) said:

yeah how come the offense couldn't just overcome the fact that a retarded wooly monkey could predict our plays?

I lost count on how many times we ran Stewart up the middle on first down. Of course predictably it wasn't very succesful.

Pair that with long developing routes on second down, it consistently lead to third and longs where we became even more predictable to a defense that was already getting to the quarterback ridiculously quick with ease, it's not hard to figure out why we were struggling. Shula wasn't the only problem clearly, but his play calling absolutely made matters substantially worse all too often.

[pstall]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

I lost count on how many times we ran Stewart up the middle on first down. Of course predictably it wasn't very succesful.

Pair that with long developing routes on second down, it consistently lead to third and longs where we became even more predictable to a defense that was already getting to the quarterback ridiculously quick with ease, it's not hard to figure out why we were struggling. Shula wasn't the only problem clearly, but his play calling absolutely made matters substantially worse all too often.

Hence 2014. 

Ok. A few more days of mourning and it's draft and march madness time.

[Seltzer]

After 18 games, how much could you possibly do that there wouldn't be some film on.  Would you try to reinvent the wheel over 2 weeks away from an offense that got you 17-1, or would you try to develop a good game plan from what you've been doing and execute?

I don't think the Broncos offense did anything that surprised the Panthers defense either.  Josh Norman jumped 2 routes that could have been interceptions.  McClain had one he could have picked too.  Obviously, Manning didn't have a great arm, but he wasn't fooling anybody either.

[Panfan35]

Did our oline have the right cleats on ? they were literally sliding backwards

playcalling is everything it sets the team up for success and in turn gives them momentum. So when your first play of every drive is for little or no yards it's not good. 

As far as the adjustments which were none but I would have love to see Williams come out and line up at TE next to remmers and put 2 tackles on Von Miller bet that would slow him down

[morgan55]

Hey Marshall go play in a playoff game then you can say something... Until then you can shut the fug up

[General_Purr]

Yeah bruh you can look at the past 3 years and call each play out before the ball is snapped. The only time is varies is when Cam points poo out. I feel like we have less plays than half of the NFL teams. Its the reason why we can't give new guys a shot. Wheger, Hill, Young, D Williams. They have plays set for certain people such as lining up 82 Cotchery in the backfield like he is a R Cobb. Yet they won't give D Byrd that slot. 

 Tolbert single back? Yeah clog the middle. The only varied running play we have are the few options and misdirections of stewart which seems to come from Cam himself.

[Fright]

Shula seems like the type of guy who could be bought... Just sayin..

[ncmonzta]

It's obvious the execution was bad. How was it smart to run the ball down 2 scores with 4 minutes left? Who cares about keeping the edge rushers honest when the fuging time is running out. Denver didn't even play for the deep ball. They didn't have to.

Shula ball works when you're in control of the game. You can't go full Shula when you're trying to play catch-up. This thread is about the coach fug ups. We already know what happened on the field.