My take on the Cam Newton fumble.

[CarolinaJami']

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

I was with this opinion too but Cam supposedly said today(scrolling on the bottom of ESPN) that he chose not to dive for the fumble because he risked injury and that  play is not what lost the game.

I didnt hear it, have no link-- it was on the bottom scrolling on ESPN for a long time. IF true I would disagree with him and say there was 4 minutes left to get the ball back and get another chance at glory.

If it was bogus reporting then Ill go with my own denial and keep thinking there was some other reason.

 

 

Check out this video to get the full context of what he is saying.

http://blackandbluereview.com/video-cam-newton-responds-to-post-super-bowl-criticism/

[ncmonzta]

TD Jared allen and Peyton Manning probably would've broke their own legs and dove head first for that ball. That's because they know they're at the end of their careers. Cam knows he has a shot a 7+ Superbowls. He made a smart decision. Cam's position near the ball and experience diving for fumbes, as Igo said, are good enough reasons for me. 

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Here's Cam's exact quote as to why he didn't dive. Not a single person on here believes we would have driven down and made it 17-16 if he recovers the ball, but there was still a CHANCE. If you're not willing to risk a leg injury needing a touchdown with not much time left in the 4th quarter of a Super Bowl, when are you? Not the end of the world, but it feels pretty homerish to excuse not diving:

 

I don’t dive on one fumble because the way my leg was, it could have been (contorted) in a way.”

Easy for you to say.

Are your legs your life?

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

The film doesn't lie guys. It looks like he didn't want to dive and he literally told the media he didn't dive because he was afraid of injuring his leg. You can come up with all the homer reasons to excuse it all you want, but I suggest reading up on Occam's razor.

Indeed.

Cam is UTTERLY PETRIFIED to put his body at risk.

[Thanatos]

3 hours ago, TheRed said:

Several players from the Broncos defense have made similar comments.

People can say what they want about Newton for this one play, or him celebrating, but he's never talked about purposely injuring a player, or trying to take a player out of a game. 

Neither were they... Hitting someone in a contact sport does not equal trying to injure them.

[truthjuice]

Probably a matter technique, him not wanting to risk a horrible leg/knee or ankle injury as well as his confidence bring totally shot to pieces. 

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, Thanatos said:

Neither were they... Hitting someone in a contact sport does not equal trying to injure them.

What exactly are you babbling to me about?

You should probably actually bother to read the thread for information before quoting me.

Aquib Talib said he intentionally pulled down Philly Brown's face mask on purpose. That's just one player. Read the OP.

[truthjuice]

4 hours ago, Broncs4lyfe said:

here it is:

 

“If he would have touched that ball, I was gonna hit him right in his face, and I wasn’t the only one,” said safety T.J. Ward, who would eventually recover the loose ball. “And I don’t know—maybe he needed to stay healthy for next year.”

The tackiest and most classeless thing ever. These Broncos players are not winning very gracefully. You'd think THEY lost. It'll be a long time before any of them see the SB again with Brock Oswhatever. I've heard none of them have smallest smount of class. But they'd kill to be on a team with Cam. I had so much respect for that defense because they're really skilled. But what you don't want is to become a targeted dirty defense, and that's what's happening. Intentionally trying to hurt a player, dirty. They don't understand they're putting targets on their backs because now the league is gonna have to keep an eye out. 

[Kevin Greene]

I got no problem with that play, initially I thought maybe he thought it was an incomplete pass but either way I can't wait until Cam is back in the saddle nest year.

Look it was a boring Super Bowl, the talking heads need something.

[davideinstein]

I bet if he had to do it again then he would dive. Pretty ridiculous he gets put under such a microscope. Glad he's himself about the negativity towards him.

[uscgamecocks]

Cam's comments directly confirm what Igo posted.

The confusion may be partly due to the media asking one question and Cam answering another.

Media:  "Why didn't you dive for the ball?"

Correct Answer:  Cam should have dove for the ball from the right hash mark.  He misplayed the recovery and got too close to dive.

Question Cam is Answering:  Why did you jump back instead of bending down to fight for the ball?

Cam's Answer:  I didn't go after the ball (at that point) "because the way my leg was it could have been contorted".

 

The distinction is fine but important.  Notice that Cam does not say "I didn't dive in there because I was afraid of getting hit."  Cam has never been afraid of taking a hit - we have ample evidence of that fact.  He just screwed up the recovery attempt by taking one too many steps and put himself into a position where if he tried to recover that ball - without first repositioning his body - he probably would have been injured.

If Cam bends down to get that ball, there's a chance he RG3's himself without the help of Ware's helmet (pay attention to his upfield knee from the sideline view).  And some combination of Ware and the guys that piled on going for the fumble would have taken the knee out either way (watch the endzone view).

This wasn't a calculated business decision.  Cam Newton is not scared and did not quit on the team.  He clearly went after that fumble until his brain told him that his knee was about to get blown out - either by his own positioning/momentum or the 300lb dudes diving at his feet - and so he jumped back and immediately went after the ball.

[Thanatos]

15 minutes ago, TheRed said:

What exactly are you babbling to me about?

You should probably actually bother to read the thread for information before quoting me.

Aquib Talib said he intentionally pulled down Philly Brown's face mask on purpose. That's just one player. Read the OP.

I'm talking about the comment that they would hit him on the fumble recovery. I'm not "babbling" to you about anything. Chillax, buddy.

Talib is a fuging dirty PoS and should have been ejected for that play.

[TheRed]

8 minutes ago, Thanatos said:

I'm talking about the comment that they would hit him on the fumble recovery. I'm not "babbling" to you about anything. Chillax, buddy.

Talib is a fuging dirty PoS and should have been ejected for that play.

The comment went beyond saying that they would just "hit him". The "right in his face" line adds a bit more to it, why add that unless you are wanting to really hurt a guy to the point that he may not return? Pair that with Talib's mindset, several players on that defense were playing at minimum borderline dirty.

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“If he would have touched that ball, I was gonna hit him right in his face, and I wasn’t the only one,” said safety T.J. Ward, who would eventually recover the loose ball.

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

if anything this has taught me that years of running over guys trying to kill him and the 2014 season as a whole (particularly the eagles game that i'm honestly surprised he made it out of alive) doesn't prove he's tough in the minds of a lot of people

but this one incident does prove that he's a bitchmade diva somehow