Obligatory Dumb Thread of the Day After A Super Bowl Loss

[t96]

Well, I hate to be that guy but I'm going to be...

 

Pass rush wins championships. It's the absolute truth and was on display yesterday. We pressured Manning quite a fair amount but only with blitzes and a few crazy plays from Ealy. KK Short is our only d-lineman who can get consistent pressure. Ealy was a monster yesterday but he's had monster games the past 2 years only to disappear for the next 3-4 so I don't think he can quite be trusted yet until he pulls it all together. CJ is gone, we all know it and we absolutely need a beast DE (preferably two and maybe we'll get that with Ealy). So to the point of this dumb thread...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sign Greg Hardy. Yes, that Greg Hardy. Josh, TD, etc. all publicly and privately supported bringing him back and despite Hardy being a moron off the field, that man played with an intensity and passion for our team that may only be matched by TD himself. He wouldn't ruin this locker room as people think. I think he'd come relatively cheap for how good he is and after the Cowboys clearly don't want him back I can't think of another team that would go out of their way to take a chance on him. Why wouldn't he want to come back here and be given another shot with us? Jerry needs to swallow his pride and decide he wants to do what he can to get a Super Bowl win during his lifetime. Of course we're not going to go out and give him $20M guaranteed, it'd have to be a contract similar to the one the Cowgals gave him where if he does some stupid sh*t off the field we can cut ties with him. And really that one incident with Holder is the only thing bad he's done and after it I can't see him doing it again.

 

Yes this is a dumb overreaction thread, and yes Luke; I am PU.

[Kuhndog94]

If Jerry Jones doesn't want him, you know it's bad. 

Keep Hardy away. 

[t96]

1 minute ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

brah you make it seem like hardy is the only dominant pass rusher available. Why the hell would we re sign a guy we got rid of for the very reason of his off the field issues. 

he's never gonna be on this team, just like smitty will never be either. 

lets just draft a guy in the 1st round, or sign von miller, cuz he's a FA. 

A pass rusher at 30 ain't gonna do sh(t this year or the year after. Hardy is not only the best 4-3 end available, he'll also come cheap because of circumstances. We don't have the dough to pay a Von Miller. We can get a monster for like nothing since nobody else will want him.

[JawnyBlaze]

lol I'd love to resign Hardy.  But you know it'll never happen.

[t96]

2 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

lol I'd love to resign Hardy.  But you know it'll never happen.

Yep I know, but a sad sad man can dream can't he?

[Cpt slay a ho]

let's sign steve smith back while we're at it..............

 

but seriously i rather find a OT who can block, or a Wr who can catch. Even without cj or allen out defense is still going to be top 10.

[ctrcat]

Kraken 2016.  He's paid his debt and there's NO better situation-for him or us.

[Fox007]

Honestly this is the perfect locker room for Hardy...I think he'd stay in line and I honestly think the coaches wanted him to play that year and felt jobbed...they obviously were forced to get rid of him per JR...wonder how he'd take it if they approached him asking if we could bring him back...prolly won't happen....

[t96]

2 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

i agree with your notion, but football is bigger than just re signing a guy b/c he's a dominant player, it has more to do with you as a person and how you carry yourself on and off the field. The Panthers have already had players like Kerry Collins, Rae Carruth, Julius Peppers who don't fit the mold of a jerry richardson led team. the reason the panthers were so successful this year is they didn't have any distractions in the locker room. they were a close knit group, and although you're right, Hardy did get along with the players in "our" locker room, he's still a nuisance off the field, a wife beater, a bigot, a prima donna, and a thick headed player who only cares about his own agenda, especially when faced with any sort of adversity. I'm sorry, that's not the type of player JR and Gets want on their team. 

 

I just don't agree with any of this. I don't like the guy off the field, what he does is stupid... Partying, making dumb rap videos, etc. But I think he's a good guy, I've seen enough of him that I don't think one possible incident with Holder (where both of them had scratches and bruises and sh*t and both were on drugs) that we don't even have all the info on can define a man. Yes he's done other stupid stuff like the motorcycle, etc. but I would never hold stuff like that against someone. There are certain types of people who have done certain things that I would never in a million years hire to my business (if I ran one, like an NFL team) and Hardy is not one of those. All he did when he was here was work his ass off and play his damn heart out for those guys in the locker room. All he cared about was those guys and the success of the team, and that's the type of player I want. Especially when he can ball and make QBs eat dirt. To me there's literally zero reason not to go for him if it's for cheap which it will be after this year with the Cowgirls, and if the contract can be structured so that if he does do something dumb off the field, he's gone.

[t96]

5 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Honestly this is the perfect locker room for Hardy...I think he'd stay in line and I honestly think the coaches wanted him to play that year and felt jobbed...they obviously were forced to get rid of him per JR...wonder how he'd take it if they approached him asking if we could bring him back...prolly won't happen....

I know it's not going happen but Gettleman would be a moron to not consider looking into bringing him back. He clearly saw how valuable Hardy is enough to franchise him. Now we could get him for nothing and give him a second chance.

[Fox007]

Just now, thomas96 said:

I know it's not going happen but Gettleman would be a moron to not consider looking into bringing him back. He clearly saw how valuable Hardy is enough to franchise him. Now we could get him for nothing and give him a second chance.

15+ sack guy with this DL...he can move inside too ....him and KK inside...Ealy/CJ/Rookie/Vet outside...LOL k gl...

Id bring him in or raise hell trying.....I'd use the good locker room as leverage but his contract would be voidable if he got into trouble and no gurantees...every check would be earned per day no 1 cent of guaranteed money.

[PhillyB]

our pass rush didn't lose the game for us. our pass rush kept us in the game.

our offensive line lost us the game. it's been obvious at points throughout the season, but mike remmers is the weakest link on the offensive line and that became evident at the worst possible time. i fully expect dave to upgrade the position over the offseason.

[GoobyPls]

Didn't Hardy said he'll play for free? 

 

Our defense was great yesterday 

[t96]

4 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

our pass rush didn't lose the game for us. our pass rush kept us in the game.

our offensive line lost us the game. it's been obvious at points throughout the season, but mike remmers is the weakest link on the offensive line and that became evident at the worst possible time. i fully expect dave to upgrade the position over the offseason.

There were many different factors in the game yesterday. The defense clearly was dominant but all our pressure was from blitzing. And there were blitzes where we still couldn't get to Manning and he completed a big pass, especially on the first drive which set the tone. Of course our D didn't lose us the game, but it could have won us the game with Hardy. And who's to say we can't add Hardy for what little it would take AND upgrade the o-line, DBs, receivers (KB coming back probably enough but we'll see), etc.? Why not try to improve everywhere? Our DE's sucked all season long. Ealy played out of his mind on Sunday and I'd love to see that consistently but until I do I don't believe he's necessarily the answer. And as I said if he does step up like that and do it consistently, AND we add Hardy we've got a better pass rush already than the "historically good" one that beat us yesterday.