Mike Shula: "Cam wasn't good enough". Probably because you called a horrible game, Shula.

[CPF4LIFE]

Just now, MountainHeel66 said:

Chizik is a defensive coach, why would he have anything to do with play calling for the offense. If anything blame the Auburn OC but even he did enough to allow Cam to go win the big game and stay out of Superman's way.

My mistake...the OC for Auburn, so what did he do after Cam left?? Wrong name but point was still made

[MountainHeel66]

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

My mistake...the OC for Auburn, so what did he do after Cam left?? Wrong name but point was still made

You mean Gus Malzahn who is now the Head Coach at Auburn and won the 2013 Coach of the Year Award!? Yeah.... I see what you were TRYING to do but it doesn't work when going back to Cam in college.

What he has done in the NFL THOUGH, when combined with the complete idiocy at the OC position, is nothing short of incredible.

[KushMcDieselson]

Do you really expect much from a guy who doesn't even seem to be able to adjust his play calling from a 3rd and 7 to a 3rd and 12?

3rd and 7: "8 yard flat route to Cotchery gets us a 1st down"

"False start offense #74 5 yard penalty, repeat 3rd down"

"Alright guys, same play, even though we need 12 yards, I'm sending Cotchery on an 8 yard route, make it happen"

Of course I'm speculating here, I don't know what the original call was, but it always seemed like after a false start pushed us back 5 yards we came up 4-5 yards short of the first.

Also, after all this talk of our misdirection running game, we did zero misdirecting, except for that dumbass trick play that fell apart with Ginn.

Another problem, we seemed to have reverted to our play not to lose gameplan, except that is an even worse idea when you're playing from behind and never held a lead.

[tiger7_88]

38 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

This.

Unfortunately, as long as this franchise settles for "adequate" coordinators (i.e. offense, special teams) that's exactly what we'll get against the best.

Adequacy.  Or worse.

[stankowalski]

55 minutes ago, CCS said:

I mean, Cam was constantly overthrowing receivers and he single handedly gave up 13 points plus an interception. He definitely was not good.

I think it's ok to actually speak the truth on things.  Cam had an off day, I think Cam would have no problem in admitting that...so why do you people have a problem with admitting it.

[2jakefansinva]

57 minutes ago, gettlolman said:

Here we go with the blame Cam poo. Nevermind his poo GM and coaches. fuging racist garbage franchise. We deserve to suck forever with shithead coaches like Shula.

Fu*k you

[tiger7_88]

3 minutes ago, stankowalski said:

I think it's ok to actually speak the truth on things.  Cam had an off day, I think Cam would have no problem in admitting that...so why do you people have a problem with admitting it.

So your "truth" is that Cam was responsible for that interception?

That's why your "truth" is laughable, dude.

[stankowalski]

25 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

fug Shula.  Just when he started to seem like he turned the corner, he goes back to old Shula and full retard.  

Somethings he couldn't control, but the problem is he didn't control the things within his control.  When they were rushing relentlessly and blitzing like they were, you have to switch things up.  Hit them with some quick routes, some leak outs, etc.  If they're sending 8 and youre blocking with 5 or 6, someone is open.  Instead, he stayed with the same long developing plays and routes.

Cam missed some throws early, so no, he isn't blameless, but again, he can't do it alone.  He had ZERO help.

The problem i harped about all year, and the same problem people got pissed off at me about bringing up while we were winning, reared its ugly head.  The entire receiving corps went to poo outside of Funchess.  Olsen was harrassed and made invisible.  But worst of all, our OL was fuging HORRIBLE, particularly Remmers.  I said all season, my biggest fear was that all of those issues that winning was covering up would apring a leak when it mattered most, and it did.

Cam wasn't the problem, our lack of help around him was.  Even watching ESPN right now, Dilfer said as much - "Cam's team let him down.  They didnt help him.  4 drops, game altering drops.  He had no help."

Man, it sucks to come so far and still finish last like 31 other teams.  fug Denver.

Draft some playmakers and protection for Cam and hopefully we'll be back.

We did have some quick hitting pass plays and guess what?  They didn't work very well either.  Guess that Denver defense might actually be good or something, but my god why give them any credit.  It's obviously our own inadequacies there are no other variables to consider.

[PanthersClinic]

Schula was basically just saying the whole team wasn't good enough. I recall Fox saying similar comments after some Delhomme losses.

Cam wasn't good enough, the line wasn't good enough, Schula wasn't good enough. If anyone was good enough we'd have done enough to win. WE didn't so WE'RE not good enough.

 

I don't see how anyone could interpret it any other way.

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, stankowalski said:

We did have some quick hitting pass plays and guess what?  They didn't work very well either.  Guess that Denver defense might actually be good or something, but my god why give them any credit.  It's obviously our own inadequacies there are no other variables to consider.

Thats not taking anything away from their D, Stan.  They did their job.  I'm simply pointing out what had to be done for us to win.  No, we didnt try much of those things...  count how many slants you recall seeing.  I don't really remember any.  I remember one flat route to stew that he dropped.  Everything else is posts, corners, 10 yard ins/outs, corner posts, etc.  Denver's Marshall said himself we didnt make any adjustments.

[stankowalski]

7 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

So your "truth" is that Cam was responsible for that interception?

That's why your "truth" is laughable, dude.

I've said before the ONLY thing I really had a problem with Cam was when he didn't jump on that ball when we were down 6 points.  Denver has a great defense and I thought Cam did about as well as he could do given the circumstances.  What I find laughable is that people won't acknowledge he helped to contribute to this loss too.  He did some good things, he did some bad things.  The offense as a whole was underwhelming and I DO NOT fault Cam in that just as I DO NOT fault Shula.  If I had to lay blame it would be on Remmers, Tolbert, and the drops by the wide receivers, and the false starts and delay of games.  But to dismiss Cam's faults in this game when there were clearly some things I'm SURE he would love to have back is disingenuous at best and patently ignorant at worse.

[JARROD]

Cam wasnt good enough.  He did make some seriously clutch throws.  There were some seriously clutch catches too like Corey Brown and one by Funchess.

There were also some seriously clutch drops to go with those over throws.

Much of that happy feet had a lot to do with Denver killing Cam repeatedly play after play. After halftime there was ZERO adjustments.

Most people would agree that if they hit their head on a wall long enough and it hurt they would do something different,..

Not Shula,...

[*FreeFua*]

Y'all wonder why he didn't get a coaching job?

 

I said from day 1 this coaching staff will hold this team back and well... Thanks shula

[stankowalski]

4 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Thats not taking anything away from their D, Stan.  They did their job.  I'm simply pointing out what had to be done for us to win.  No, we didnt try much of those things...  count how many slants you recall seeing.  I don't really remember any.  I remember one flat route to stew that he dropped.  Everything else is posts, corners, 10 yard ins/outs, corner posts, etc.  Denver's Marshall said himself we didnt make any adjustments.

Let me ask you this...do you honestly in your heart of hearts believe that we had more talent on our offense than they did on their defense.  Because if you do we are at a severe disconnect and there's no rational way to have this disagreement.