I guess this board will go back to hating Rivera and Shula next year no matter how many games this team wins.

[Chris1]

Can't wait.

[JawnyBlaze]

Not Rivera, but Shula definitely.  Shula showed improvement this year, but it was more addition by subtraction of his control over the offense in-game.  I honestly don't know what we can do about it.  Who fires the OC after going 17-2?  If we did actually pull that trigger, who would we replace him with?  How would that impact the progression of the offense overall?  We're kinda stuck with Shula atm, it would seem.

[tiger7_88]

Players win games.

Coaches lose them.

If you couldn't see piles of poo layed by Shula on that California field tonight, I can't help you.

[Panther8989]

Unfortunately the 17-1 record means nothing now. They played their worst ( Broncos D helped) game of the year when it mattered most. The domination of Arizona, beating Seattle, it all is for not!!

 

 

[TN05]

2 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Players win games.

Coaches lose them.

If you couldn't see piles of poo layed by Shula on that California field tonight, I can't help you.

Yep we totally could have overcome four turnovers, eight drops, a missed field goal, and a horrid return game if only Shula called a few more screens and slants! I know this from my vast experience of watching NFL games while inebriated

[zacka77ack]

Ron Rivera did nothing wrong tonight.  The only time I had issue with his decisions was that first or second drive where we had a 4th and 1 and he punted.  He shoulda gone for it.  Mike Shula though?  Reverted and reverted hard.  I am literally in awe of how horrible his game plan was.  He ran.  On every first down.  He ran.  Over the right G/T. ON. EVERY. FIRST. DOWN.  Mike Shula should be left in California.  I wish Cam had said "EF THIS poo" and called his own plays.

[Mol3m4n]

I would be lying if I said I didn't hate Rivera at this moment. He gave up on his team. 

[rodeo]

1 minute ago, Panther8989 said:

Unfortunately the 17-1 record means nothing now.

 

This is such a weird thing that people keep saying. It actually still means we went 17-1 and had a badass season and made it to the Super Bowl.

[megadeth078]

What do 17 wins matter?  Are we going to put up a "Super Bowl Finalist" banner in BoA next season?

[tiger7_88]

2 minutes ago, zacka77ack said:

Ron Rivera did nothing wrong tonight.  The only time I had issue with his decisions was that first or second drive where we had a 4th and 1 and he punted.  He shoulda gone for it.  Mike Shula though?  Reverted and reverted hard.  I am literally in awe of how horrible his game plan was.  He ran.  On every first down.  He ran.  Over the right G/T. ON. EVERY. FIRST. DOWN.  Mike Shula should be left in California.  I wish Cam had said "EF THIS poo" and called his own plays.

Well here's the thing about Shula... he only does what Rivera ALLOWS him to do.

Rivera doesn't get to plead innocent if Shula is guilty, bro.  That ain't the way it works.

[Chris1]

I knew Carolina getting all this praise was a bad thing. Every time the Panthers aren't favored they dominate and when they are favored the exact opposite happens.

Why?!?!?!

[zacka77ack]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

Well here's the thing about Shula... he only does what Rivera ALLOWS him to do.

Rivera doesn't get to plead innocent if Shula is guilty, bro.  That ain't the way it works.

I hadn't considered this.  I will think on it.

[JawnyBlaze]

1 minute ago, chris999 said:

We have the number 1 offense in the league... why would we fire Shula?

I'm not saying we should, as is obvious by my post you quoted.  But if we did it would be because our offense obviously improved the LESS he had to do with it in-game. 

[TN05]

1 minute ago, chris999 said:

We have the number 1 offense in the league... why would we fire Shula?

Because it is OBVIOUSLY Shula's fault we lost, not the fact our receivers dropped eight passes, we turned the ball over four times and forgot how to play special teams. THE ONLY BLAME IS ON SHULA. SHUUUUUUUULLLLLAAAAA!