No one has given a legit reason why the Broncos would beat us

[cardiackat88.]

Just now, hammertime said:

How am I trolling? 

And Peyton was injured and incapable for a large chunk of this season - it was dumb to have started him for about a 6 game stretch (he threw 13 interceptions, including a slew of pick-sixes, in 5 and half games). 

I'll give you this - if Peyton plays like he did against the Chiefs - 4 interceptions in 1 half, then that Panthers will win. When the Broncs have a 5 turnover game, that's when teams score 29 points against them.   

You're a very lousy troll. Carolina won't need any interceptions to win this. You make it sound like the only way the panthers win is if Denver gives them the game by turning it over repeatedly.

[PanthersFanNY]

33 minutes ago, hammertime said:

Are you kidding me? Denver had one of the hardest - if not the actual hardest - schedule in the NFL this season. Certainly much harder than Carolina's cupcake schedule. 

As to racking up stats against teams that are complete ass, how about what the Denver defense did to Green Bay: 

90 Rushing Yards / 50 Passing Yard  for 140 Total Yards 

Yeah that early season gauntlet must have been tough. How on earth did the Broncos get past the Ravens, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Raiders, and Browns? Must have been really difficult to play the Chargers twice as well. The only teams that were "difficult" on that schedule were the Patriots and Steelers, both of whom were decimated by injuries.

 

Any team would have a top defense if they played in the AFC West vs those turds and also got put up against the low scoring AFC & NFC North teams (excluding the Steelers & Bengals, maybe).

[cardiackat88.]

4 minutes ago, hammertime said:

How is sticking to the thread topic, providing facts, and refraining from being rude or vulgar trolling? Someone disagreeing with you is not trolling. 

And yes, the only way Denver loses this game is if the offense implodes and turns the ball over multiple times. 

Lol that's the only way? Denver will not be able to stop Cam, coughing the ball up to our D or not.

[CarolinaSunday]

32 minutes ago, hammertime said:

My source is ESPN.

Denver's D allowed 1337 yards on 408 carries for 3.28 yards per rush. 
Seattle's D allowed 1304 yards on 362 carries for 3.60 yards per rush. 

Denver has the #1 rush defense in the NFL this year - Seattle was #4. 

Ahh, you have to drill down the stat to reach that. Seattle is listed #1 as total yards allowed. 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense/seasontype/2 

[BIGH2001]

1 minute ago, hammertime said:

Nonsense. Far and away the best unit on the Super Bowl field is the Denver Defense. If Denver plays and average game, Denver wins. The only way Denver loses is if Manning reverts to his injured form and throws a bunch of interceptions. 

I think the word "overpursuit" will mean something to you tomorrow night.  Let's see how good your defense is against an offense that isn't just a one trick pony.

[PanthersFanNY]

Just now, hammertime said:

Carolina played what, 3 games against playoff teams during the season (and one was Houston, so in reality it was 2). 

Denver played 7 games against playoff teams during the season (including 2 NFC playoff teams if you're trying to argue that the AFC was weak this year).

And are you really trying to say that the AFC West was weaker than the NFC South. LOL 

Carolina had the easiest schedule in the NFL this year, and the Broncos had the hardest. 

No, I'm not saying the AFC West weaker, but it also wasn't tougher. You're pulling the "carolina easiest broncos hardest" stuff out of your ass, that isn't based on fact. The Panthers played 4 playoff team games, the Broncos 7 including 2x vs the Chiefs who can score around 17 a game at best no matter who they're playing. To say one team had a tougher schedule by far is wrong and misleading.

 

I'm not saying the Broncos defense isn't real, they are, but you're making things up and cherry picking stats to help your argument.

[Nomad82]

Tomorrow will be akin to Larry Holmes/Ali 1980.

I really do fear for Manning's health.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

27 minutes ago, hammertime said:

It's not misleading to say the Broncos had a brutal schedule and the Panthers had a ridiculously easy, cupcake schedule. It's just factually and statistically true.  

I don't see you as a troll.  You've been providing a good defense for your team.  You also seem like a pretty decent guy.

Hopefully you will be able to console yourself with the fact that Denver had a tougher regular season schedule because after tomorrow that is all you will likely have left.

There is a juggernaut called the Panthers and they are going to steamroll the Broncos just like they did with AZ and Seattle.   

Panthers have been steamrolling other teams all season.  Once Carolina gets an insurmountable lead, usually by halftime, Rivera has the offense and defense throttle back.  The game clock does the rest.  

Imagine Carolina's stats if Rivera had asked the team to continue to steamroll our opponents all game long like he did with AZ? 

Winter is coming.

[csx]

That yards per attempt rushing stat sounds really comforting.

 

[The Lobo]

1 hour ago, hammertime said:

You're right about 4 - I forgot about the Redskins (it's easy to forget the Redskins and Texans - at 9 wins, neither deserved to be in the playoffs - there were teams with better records that didn't make the playoffs). 

And FYI, Kansas City was a Top-10 scoring offense this year. 

It's not even arguable that the Broncos had a MUCH harder schedule this year - perhaps the hardest schedule in the NFL. The Panthers played a cupcake schedule - the easiest in the NFL. That's true statistically (the Panthers's opponents SOS winning percentage was .441 - which was tied with the Jets for DEAD LAST in the NFL, the statistically easiest schedule this year) and via the eye test (Bucs/Saints/Falcons twice, Eagles, Titans, Cowboys, Giants).

It's not misleading to say the Broncos had a brutal schedule and the Panthers had a ridiculously easy, cupcake schedule. It's just factually and statistically true.  

Weird how SOS is still being brought up for both teams. Right now both teams are 2-0. If you're going off of SOS now, the Panthers had the much more difficult schedule. Let's see, destroying the Hawks and Cards (both teams were considered the best in the playoffs especially the Cards) vs the Broncos playoff schedule. A half ass Pitt team with a qb in a wheel chair, without their two best rbs and without the best WR in the league. It still took a fumble by that French guy from Pitt in the redone near the end of the game to win. Barely squeaked by. Then there is the pats. They were riddled with injuries and have a horrible oline. Not to mention the best kicker in the NFL who made 530 consecutive PATs missed one, and they went for it on fourth down three times instead of kicking it. Had they kicked one fg game over. 

If anything, Denver had the cupcake schedule (playoff wise) while Carolina played way better teams and smashed them. Denver squeaked into the super bowl like someone trying to let out a silent fart in class, except this time they gambled on said fart and lost. I'm not saying Denver is bad, but they are in for a tough go Sunday. Go panthers.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Well, Denver has apparently managed to score 3 TDs in 29 post season possessions...

 

so they have that going for them.

[csx]

Duh.....magic

[Thanatos]

Its funny Broncos fans bringing up SoS when their very own John Elway had the third easiest SoS for a SB winner with 13+ victories in 1998. Guess SoS means jack poo when it comes to the Superbowl.