Lewd dancing ... when can I expect national outrage?

[stankowalski]

1 hour ago, Luke Cage said:

It's so sad.  Even when it's clear as fuging day, people refuse to acknowledge their own implicit biases in favor of lighter pigmentation.  Keep in mind that it is a scientific fuging fact (proven by multiple studies) that people in the United States of all races have an implicit bias that favors whites.  So yeah, Gronk can essentially sexually assault a woman and it's cool.  Let somebody else do it though...then the lynch mob comes out looking to have another "Sunday Picnic".

It really is a strange phenomena.  There are even biases within the black community based on how light someone is.  It's like they get this crazy white gene in them and start looking at other black people like hey shouldn't you be mowing my lawn or something?  

[BelmontPantherNation]

Not Melissa Stark. Fox Sports report Julie Stewart-Binks. Also this is not Gronks first lap dance. I did a Google search for the lady's name and I saw at least 3 links talking about lap dances and Gronk.

 

[Luke Cage]

1 minute ago, stankowalski said:

It really is a strange phenomena.  There are even biases within the black community based on how light someone is.  It's like they get this crazy white gene in them and start looking at other black people like hey shouldn't you be mowing my lawn or something?  

It's actually not that strange.  Every non-white culture that has been impacted by colonialism has the same preference.  For blacks, it's an ignorant hold-over from slave days.  I've literally spat in the faces of other black men for making disparaging comments about dark skinned people; it's beyond ignorant.  Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, and essentially every other group/culture in Latin America have the same preference.  I remember I got into a couple of fights with Puerto Ricans when I was in the Marine Corps because of racist poo they said; keep in mind that these dudes looked like light-skinned blacks, but swore up and down that they were Puerto Rican and not black (as if Puerto Rican is a separate racial group and not an amalgamation of black, white, and Native American).

[The_Mango55]

Just as I expected, when the entire context comes out people look like idiots for jumping to conclusions.

 

It was clear even in the vine that she was probably in on it and that it wasn't a big deal.

[Moorgan]

Yeah the full video is benign. She DEFINITELY wanted him to do it...and more. But...

...in the Army it's still sexual harassment if someone else was uncomfortable.

 

Sigh.

[Luke Cage]

I don't give two squirts of piss if she asked for it.  It was uncalled for.  All that gyrating and hip thrusting.  Like some kind of animal from the jungle.  Think of the children.  Why won't you guys think of the kids?

[SZ James (banned)]

1 hour ago, fitty76 said:

When is the "what if Cam did that" stuff going to stop?  Because it's getting old.    

 even if it's true I get sick of hearing it every other fuggin day

[csx]

1 hour ago, fitty76 said:

When is the "what if Cam did that" stuff going to stop?  Because it's getting old.    

literally never

[Luke Cage]

1 hour ago, fitty76 said:

When is the "what if Cam did that" stuff going to stop?  Because it's getting old.    

Yeah.  Let's stop with this uncomfortable line of dialogue strictly because it makes you uncomfortable.  I hope all this "what if Cam did that" poo never stops.  Maybe if it's incessant, maybe just maybe all the ignorant fugs out there can actually let the rusty wheels inside their craniums spin around and arrive at the same conclusion that more rationally minded people arrived at years ago.

[The_Mango55]

"What if Cam did that" is the same question as the idiotic "What if a white person said/did that" you see from your racist family and acquaintances on facebook, just from a different perspective.

It's dumb.

[Moorgan]

2 minutes ago, The_Mango55 said:

"What if Cam did that" is the same question as the idiotic "What if a white person said/did that" you see from your racist family and acquaintances on facebook, just from a different perspective.

It's dumb.

No it's not. It's questioning biases and a narrative within a cultural perspective. That's good. It challenges us to think outside of our own biases. That's never dumb. That's evolution.

[cgarsmoker]

I see nothing wrong with pointing out the double standard and bias when it comes to Cam.

A good example would be Saints fans who hate Cam for his celebrations now but loved it when Joe Horn pulled out a cell phone from under the goal post padding.  It's hypocrisy at it finest and people hate it when you call them on it.   

[Nomad82]

3 hours ago, The_Cannon said:

Gronk grinds on a woman on National television: "Gronk being Gronk"

Cam  smiles and celebrates with teammates: "Oh Lord think of the children" Chaos ensues.  Men jump from buildings, Women faint. Fires start. 

"but it's not about race ! herp derp"

[iamhubby1]

2 hours ago, colty77 said:

Gronk and some of these guys are full of themselves, immature.  The Vonn Miller dance does get a bit out of hand ( I don't like it too much myself), but he's just having fun...   that still frame above catches it in mid stride, he's not really doing a Michael Jackson crotch grab... this is the Vonn Miller sack celebration in motion, which I fully expect to see on a few occasions Sunday evening:

 

 

 

 

Sorry, dude. But yeah that was a crotch grab. I was watching that game and I thought it was over the top. Dance, and celebrate all you want, I could care less. But he crotch grab was classless.

 

Defend him all you want. But at least get the facts straight.