What will it take...for people to shut up?

[koolkatluke]

Hate to say it, but no FO makes decisions based on crowd and fan reactions. Sure the QB will occssionally get benched, but that will only happen if there are already seeds of doubt within the coaches minds. In addition, what power do us as fans have over what decisions are made? Naught. Just look at the Eagles as an example. When was the last time the FO went with their back up QB because the fans turned on McNabb, or drafted the player they wanted? They are notorious for getting on top of their team, yet Reid and the FO pretty much ignore them.

The big cat does. Let the stadium get empty and see what happens. He has fired 2 coaches becuase the "air was let out of the stadium" . We are not the Cubs.

Will Fox, Hurney and Richardson be thinking about Delhommes future. You better believe it. Not because the fans told them by booing him. They can actually see for themselves how he is playing, so booing in that instance is a loads of crap. All it does, as I am trying to point out, is hurt the team.

Yeah beacuse Fox and Hurney didn't care that the Fans would Boo David Carr so they played him? "oh"

I want both Delhomme and Fox out, hopefully sooner rather than later, but I will support them every week until they go.

I might Boo the effort but I've said nothing about wanting them out. (Maybe Jake) Your a great fan aren't you. You don't like fans booing but you want everybody fired after 1 game????

So because someone is a professional, they are suddenly exempt from having human emotions? These players lay it on the line every week and the game where they try their hardest, yet play like crap, the fans turn on them. Trust me, it hurts them all deeply when fans turn on them. They show their professionalism when they come out and say "we understand the frustrations of the fans". Think we all know that's not how they really feel.

Again grown men can take it they are not kids. Is their a trophy for the team who showed the most heart?

What I do not understand is that everyone defending the action still thinks it's because we are supporting the FO or 'slurping Jake', we aren't, not even close. We are just realising that booing a team that was still trying till the final whistle, when they have been thrashed, is counter productive and creates a divide between the fans and players.

Everyone has a right to do what they want. The problem is that booing them, because you didn't get your moneys worth, just shows your true colours. You are not a fan of the team, rather a fan of an event. Frankly I watch till the last second ticks by in even the worst of games because I love the team and love watching us play. If all you are interested in winning, then please realise you are not what this team needs right now.

Grow up man that's what people of other teams talk about when panther fans come up in confersation. We give our player free passes. That why teams in New york and Dallas always make moves because if they are not doing better they get rip by fans and media.

[SloppyJoe]

Yeah! I never boo! I just use an extremely long list of obscenities directed at everyone and everything!

[DaCityKats]

Oh, because I'm sure they couldn't tell that losing by 3 scores sucked. They must have thought that the fans were OK with losing. I sure am glad they booed, I wonder what the score would have been had the fans not booed, we probably would have lost by a lot more.

I'm sorry but that it a ridiculous notion to me. They KNOW when they're sucking, they want to win, that's why they play the damn game and practice and work out so much. I'm pretty damn sure Delhomme knows fans don't like interceptions. It's plain stupid to think that we need to boo so that the players know when they're playing like sh*t.

Booing is just an angry sentiment that could prove to be a detrimental force to the team's confidence, resulting in players continuing to under perform. It's a mob mentality, that ultimately could result in more losses.

We're not sucking the guy off, I'm just as pissed as anyone on here about last Sunday and how terrible some of Jake's throws were. I was just as pumped last season before the Arizona game and just as disappointed after. Everyone on the team and all the coaches support Delhomme publicly. I'm sure there are some of them that would wish nothing less than for us to have gotten rid of him and have someone else here now, but they don't say it publicly, because they're smart enough to know that it won't help right now. I can't say the same for a lot of the people here.

Right now, if we want to help, all we can do is support the team, and that, whether you like it or not, means supporting Delhomme.

these men have been playing ball for for a while, so booing is 2nd nature. you really think us booing is hurting the team confidence, shiiiiiittttt no wonder you are just a kicker. that comes with signing that contract.like ima chant after 3 picks bitch please,if you want to help out go suck jake before the game so he can calm down.booing does not make you a bad fan if anything it shows you care.tough love.

[robtrox0]

Why bother?? slurpers will be slurpers.

[DaCityKats]

we support them plently by buying there jerseys, and coming to the game. at least they can act like they care or even show up in the game. and last sunday i felt like everybody wasnt out there. they were just going threw the motion,this falls back on the coaching staff.

[Urrymonster]

Grow up man that's what people of other teams talk about when panther fans come up in confersation. We give our player free passes. That why teams in New york and Dallas always make moves because if they are not doing better they get rip by fans and media.

Absolute tripe. The FOs of those teams do NOT sign players because of the fans getting on top of them. They sign players because that is their method of sustaining their franchise. Some build in the draft, others use free agency.

I still am taken aback that your reasoning for booing them, is simply because they are pro's.

Yeah! I never boo! I just use an extremely long list of obscenities directed at everyone and everything!

That I can actually appreciate more. It is a spontaneous reacion to poor play, which anyone who is emotionally invested in a team will do. That is human nature.

Booing actually needs a concerted effort and is premeditated. So suddenly it has gone from being a sudden outburst at the poor play to booing regardless, simply because you feel like bringing someone down.

Those who enjoy booing? What feeling do you feel when you do it? Do you do it so that those players realise that you personally are unhappy? I am pretty sure they already know...

Why bother?? slurpers will be slurpers.

<sigh>

Can you actually contribute anything to this forum other than comments that include slurping? Or is your preference in life causing your mind to always be thinking of that terminology?

If you genuinely believe those against booing are...ahem...'slurpers' then you are just ignorant. I want Delhomme to be replaced along with Fox. Not going to stop me supporting the team though. Those two are purely a small percentage of that word.

[SloppyJoe]

Alright, this is ridiculous. Flip this argument around, and apply all the same logic you anti booers have...to cheering. And then suddenly cheering is pointless? The players know they are doing well after scoring a touchdown, and surely don't need us as fans cheering to let them know that.

I will never boo them though, unless they do not pull their weight.

Umm, isn't that what every fan thinks as they boo? So you are for booing? Or no?

[walt227]

Nobody did not say they didn't watch till the last tick. We say the effort they put forth was unacceptable. We want them to do better then the crap they show us last Sunday. How can you question another person Fandom because they do not ride the RaRA bus with you? I think a better fan is the person that follow's the team and love's the team and will not put up with sub par effort. That makes the team want to get better. If you were getting paid for sub par work and nobody were ever checking you. You would continue doing sub par work.

This is not the little league. There are no trophies or moral victories. These GROWN MEN get paid to do a job and if they are not doing the job to the best of their ability we should let them know. Do your feeling get hurt when the Boss criticize's your work or do you do a better job next time around. Well we as fans are their bosses and we felt like they can do a better job.

Exactly.

+rep

[Urrymonster]

Alright, this is ridiculous. Flip this argument around, and apply all the same logic you anti booers have...to cheering. And then suddenly cheering is pointless? The players know they are doing well after scoring a touchdown, and surely don't need us as fans cheering to let them know that.

Umm, isn't that what every fan thinks as they boo? So you are for booing? Or no?

No no no. I suppose I did not make myself clear. If someone shows a blatant disregard for the team and simply does not try then I can understand people booing them. Problem is that people were directing their disgust a Delhomme, who probably tried TOO hard, in that he forced things when they were not on.

With regards to your point on cheering I understand your line of thinking. Again the point I am trying to make is that booing is not a spontaneous thing. Cheering, Cursing, clapping, jumping, shouting are all spontaneous actions bought from emotional investment in a team. Booing is not spontaneous, it comes after the spontaneous act of shouting in anger and throwing curses. That's why it's significant, because people are purposefully doing it.

[walt227]

BTW--I've been out this afternoon wearing a 08 NFC South Champions shirt and I've had at least 5 people come up to me and strike up conversations about the state of the union. Joe Fan is furious and disgusted with what is going on and say what you will that trickles down to team decision making. I don't want us to turn into Philly fans, and we won't; but I hate to tell you cheering (or not booing) Delhomme is more detrimental than expressing disconcern.

Fans pay the bills...

[Rhys]

Alright, this is ridiculous. Flip this argument around, and apply all the same logic you anti booers have...to cheering. And then suddenly cheering is pointless? The players know they are doing well after scoring a touchdown, and surely don't need us as fans cheering to let them know that.

Umm, isn't that what every fan thinks as they boo? So you are for booing? Or no?

Cheering has no ill effects on the team, booing could.

The only reason I used the logic that players know they've played terribly and booing is useless is to combat the RIDICULOUS notion that fans boo so that the players know we disapprove of bad plays.

As I said before, we've reached a fundamental disagreement on what booing accomplishes, therefore there' no point in arguing the point further.

The slurping comments are just comical, they just show that you have nothing to offer to the conversation and that you think about sucking Jake entirely too much.

[Rhys]

BTW--I've been out this afternoon wearing a 08 NFC South Champions shirt and I've had at least 5 people come up to me and strike up conversations about the state of the union. Joe Fan is furious and disgusted with what is going on and say what you will that trickles down to team decision making. I don't want us to turn into Philly fans, and we won't; but I hate to tell you cheering (or not booing) Delhomme is more detrimental than expressing disconcern.

Fans pay the bills...

I sure as HELL am expressing concern about Jake. I couldn't be more concerned about a player. Obviously there will be games that ride on his shoulders, and if he cracks under pressure every time, then we have to find a new direction, NOW. I despise the fact that for the life of him he seems not to be able to hit a single receiver in stride, the receiver nearly always has to make adjustments to their route to make a play for the ball. It irks me beyond belief, and when he throws interceptions or stupid incompletes, I get angry and shout and curse.

However, I don't make a huge effort to make myself be heard by the players after the play and boo at them BECAUSE I'd rather them maintain composure and continue to try their hardest to keep focused so that they can play to the best of their abilities. Lots of fans together, in a concerted effort, booing them funcks that up for sure.

If Delhomme is going to play, which unfortunately for us he will under Fox, then it's best for him to keep his cool, not panic and stay focused. I wish we had someone in the wings to put in his place right now, but we don't, so why mess with our QB's focus if we want to win the game?

[robtrox0]

I sure as HELL am expressing concern about Jake. I couldn't be more concerned about a player. Obviously there will be games that ride on his shoulders, and if he cracks under pressure every time, then we have to find a new direction, NOW. I despise the fact that for the life of him he seems not to be able to hit a single receiver in stride, the receiver nearly always has to make adjustments to their route to make a play for the ball. It irks me beyond belief, and when he throws interceptions or stupid incompletes, I get angry and shout and curse.

However, I don't make a huge effort to make myself be heard by the players after the play and boo at them BECAUSE I'd rather them maintain composure and continue to try their hardest to keep focused so that they can play to the best of their abilities. Lots of fans together, in a concerted effort, booing them funcks that up for sure.

If Delhomme is going to play, which unfortunately for us he will under Fox, then it's best for him to keep his cool, not panic and stay focused. I wish we had someone in the wings to put in his place right now, but we don't, so why mess with our QB's focus if we want to win the game?

Give your jaw a break bud don't want to lose you for the season as Jake's #1 jock sniffer. :chillpill:

[Rhys]

Give your jaw a break bud don't want to lose you for the season as Jake's #1 jock sniffer. :chillpill:

Haha ok, yet another witty contribution, congrats.