Newton will lead the Panthers to SB50 victory his way.

[Moorgan]

15 minutes ago, fitty76 said:

My only issue with Cam is when he said "they haven't seen nothing that they can compare me to."  Really?  Nobody remembers Steve McNair or even Daunte Culpepper?  

I'm sure the people on the Huddle will tell me how Cam is COMPLETELY different than those two QBs.  

Maybe not completely different but different enough. I don't think either were as fast as Cam. Although I would agree that Shula is partly responsible for all of this. Those other guys had systems that were more "typical" pro offenses. They might've thrived in this offense but we will never know.

No one has ever done what Cam does. And first and foremost the props go to him.

[fitty76]

5 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

Maybe not completely different but different enough. I don't think either were as fast as Cam. Although I would agree that Shula is partly responsible for all of this. Those other guys had systems that were more "typical" pro offenses. They might've thrived in this offense but we will never know.

No one has ever done what Cam does. And first and foremost the props go to him.

Daunte Culpepper was freakishly fast for how big he was.   

But he's a bigger stronger version of RGIII, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick.  The notion that there is nobody who compares to Cam is absurd.  I'll even throw Donovan McNabb in there.  He's not that different from what we have seen before.      

[Moorgan]

3 minutes ago, fitty76 said:

Daunte Culpepper was freakishly fast for how big he was.   

But he's a bigger stronger version of RGIII, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick.  The notion that there is nobody who compares to Cam is absurd.  I'll even throw Donovan McNabb in there.  He's not that different from what we have seen before.      

You're right. Culpepper was fast and almost as big. I don't remember him being as good a QB but I didn't pay much attention to Minn. plus he had Moss.

Again though, I think how the coaches use the players is a big factor. And because of that, that's why we're not able to compare him to anyone...because no one has ever been asked to do what Cam does.

Does that make sense? It does in my head.

[iamhubby1]

31 minutes ago, fitty76 said:

Daunte Culpepper was freakishly fast for how big he was.   

But he's a bigger stronger version of RGIII, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick.  The notion that there is nobody who compares to Cam is absurd.  I'll even throw Donovan McNabb in there.  He's not that different from what we have seen before.      

 

I'll give you that Culpepper was close. But they never asked him to run like Cam does so you cannot say for certain that he could. He could scramble for sure.

 

What you are trying to argue is not easily quantified. The ONLY QBs that were/are remotely asked to do what Cam is doing are RGIII and Crapyourdick. RG wasn't big and strong enough to stay healthy, so he shouldn't even count. Whereas Cap WAS/IS a running QB that has a hard time in the pocket.

 

Now if you had said that MAYBE if those other QBs were asked to do what Cam does. They MAY have been able to do so. However, we will never know cuz they were not asked to do what Cam is doing.

 

[heelinfine]

McNabb 13 seasons

37,276 pass/yds

3,459 rush/yds

Mcnair 13 seasons

31,304 pass/yds

3,590 pass/yds

 

Culpeper

11 seasons 5 full

24,132 pass/yds

 

2,652 rush/yds

Newton 5 seasons

18,263 pass/yds

 

3,207 rush/yds

 

No, the league has never seen anything like Cam Newton.

[heelinfine]

1 hour ago, fitty76 said:

My only issue with Cam is when he said "they haven't seen nothing that they can compare me to."  Really?  Nobody remembers Steve McNair or even Daunte Culpepper?  

I'm sure the people on the Huddle will tell me how Cam is COMPLETELY different than those two QBs.  

And Cam's not the only one to say the same thing. Many current and former players, many coaches including most recent Wade Phillips said he's never seen anyone like Cam before.

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, fitty76 said:

My only issue with Cam is when he said "they haven't seen nothing that they can compare me to."  Really?  Nobody remembers Steve McNair or even Daunte Culpepper?  

So I guess by "compare" you thought he was saying "black"?

That's the only way your statement makes any sense.  Because McNair's and Culpepper's games did not even VAGUELY resemble Newtons.

Now if you had mentioned Young or Favre, you may have made a better point.  But for some reason you chose McNair and Culpepper.

Interesting...

[pstall]

The league and the rules are so different it's not worth the effort comparing.

The Maddenification has jacked things up.

Shula and Cam have struck the perfect balance on utilizing skill set and gameplan. For now it's still a team game and everyone is making plays right now.

[cookinbrak]

Actually, look at whose records he's breaking.

Cam is like Randall Cunningham talent in Ben Roethlisbergers body. That's scary to...well, others.

[Semaj]

10/10 article. Thanks for sharing. It's the truth. Gotta love Cam. 

[Jangler]

For comparing QBs. I'd say Cam is most like Young. A passer that can take off and run. Can has been transforming into a passer first, that's why some of the sacks he took this season were so ugly. Cam is still devolping his sense of when to take off and run and when not to. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

I heard a caller on the local sports talk show claim that the Panthers were going to lose because. Cam would be out all week Manzeilling it up. That SCam is more interested in his own brand than the actual football game. Because this guy said he has seen pictures of Cam at night clubs all the time.

Manziel this week...

Texas police search for Johnny Manziel with helicopter, investigating him for possible assault of ex-girlfriend

Newton has never been involved in anything even remotely similar to this, and unlike Manziel he can actually play quarterback.

The comparison is ridiculous.

[Mr. Scot]

As to comparisons, I've generally considered Brett Favre the best prototype for Newton. Watching him this year though, I'm starting to lean more toward John Elway. I could probably throw in Roger Staubach too, but I don't know that there are very many on here old enough to have actually seen him play.

No, they weren't as athletic then as Newton is now, but who was? Let's be real.  Every single position on the field has better athletes playing it now than 20 years ago. Elway especially was a top athlete for his time, as Cam of course is now.

Comparisons of athleticism in different eras aside, I still don't think there are any better stylistic comparisons to be found than Favre and Elway.

[Mr. Scot]

4 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

What you are trying to argue is not easily quantified. The ONLY QBs that were/are remotely asked to do what Cam is doing are RGIII and Crapyourdick. RG wasn't big and strong enough to stay healthy, so he shouldn't even count. Whereas Cap WAS/IS a running QB that has a hard time in the pocket.

I never understood comparisons of Newton to Michael Vick. There's nothing even remotely similar about their style of play.  And Vick, while faster than Newton, was undersized. Cam is definitely not.

Comparisons of RG3 to Vick, on the other hand, make perfect sense to me. Both were essentially track stars trying to play quarterback.

Kaepernick? For me, the definitive statement on him is that he actually is what people thought Newton would be.

Harbaugh did a good job covering his flaws. I'm not so sure his current coaches can do the same.