If the Panthers win SB50, they will become the new Villians of the NFL

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

Did you read the post? Of course we don't see our guys as Villians. 

Everyone else out side of the Carolinas? They will see Cam and a bunch of thugs regardless if that's the truth or not. 

Your last paragraph was my point. 

I don't doubt there will be people who'll see us that way. I'd say "everyone outside of the Carolinas" is an enormous reach, though.

Look how much positive press the Sunday giveaway has gotten. And heck, Thomas Davis and Peanut Tillman are practically canonized.

Cam wouldn't have the marketing power he does I'd that many people disliked him.

[IMON KRAQUE]

On 1/7/2016 at 11:34 AM, KissMyConverse said:

 

 

Just now, IGSaint said:

what?

Why do you think every body we beat goes on these ridiculous rants against newton and his "arrogance?" Knowing good and damn well if it was their qb? They'd never say a word. but he's not their qb. And it kills them. because they see what we see. They see the best in the game and the future rolling out like a red carpet for him. And because of 5 years of hating and routing for the wrong teams....now their stuck. Therefore, they have to hate him. but deepdown inside they love it. they love seeing a once in a lifetime great rule a sport to its very fabric of being. and seeing how his skin color seems to be 1 of the reasons he's constantly slighted... I figured it was only fitting! 2pac coined the phrase. Another version of cam, just musically

[0115]

So if the media makes us the villian what does that say about other countries? llol but thats none of my business 

[IGSaint]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I don't doubt there will be people who'll see us that way. I'd say "everyone outside of the Carolinas" is an enormous reach, though.

Look how much positive press the Sunday giveaway has gotten. And heck, Thomas Davis and Peanut Tillman are practically canonized.

Agreed. There are a lot of the typical haters but Cam is also popular with the young demographic and his jersey sales have kept on rising. What other people say about us being villains is pointless compared to the new fans we may be getting. 

[Nomad82]

1 minute ago, IGSaint said:

Agreed. There are a lot of the typical haters but Cam is also popular with the young demographic and his jersey sales have kept on rising. What other people say about us being villains is pointless compared to the new fans we may be getting. 

One of the analysts on FOX said it best, He's the face of the Millenial generation.

[mbarbour21]

Most of the analysts will grab on the coattail of the Panthers and act like they were there the whole time. They will "explain away" why they thought Cam wouldn't play well and how they were REALLY justified in their assessment. How Cam had a billion problems but he fixed them! It's a miracle!!!! They will completely overlook the fact he had a horrible o-line, newbie coach, no consistency with receivers/OCs...yada....yada....yada. You know the story.

My point being, we will be universally hated by fans of rival teams. Not necessarily division teams; but teams like Seattle, Arizona, NE (their fans are horrible losers. See reaction to missed XP in 2nd quarter). I don't believe it will be the majority though. I also don't think race will play a factor since he will have FINALLY "PROVEN" he was good. Just my opinion tho. 

[PghPanther]

Hardly................the Panthers are closest thing to a marketable team for the next generation of fans....

......they are literally becoming the NFL's sesame street.........

If they have a strong presence over the next 5 years they will carry a generation of fans like the Steelers did in the 70's going from the joke of the NFL to a storied franchise.

Besides the Raiders hold that spot..........and have a great history with it.

[Frizzy350]

37 minutes ago, Growl said:

You're not kidding about the ATN podcast guys. They hate us lol.

Rosenthal seemed to jump onto our train pretty quickly.

He's been doing most of the positive articles on NFLN related to us.

[Mr. Scot]

30 minutes ago, BrownianMotion said:

Brady is not only despised by many, but you could argue that he's the biggest "villain" in the league.

People forget that it wasn't always like that.

When they made their first Super Bowl, the Patriots were David to the Rams Goliath. Raider fans were pissed about the Tuck Rule, but most of the country embraced the young squad of underdogs led by the QB that was passed over till Round Six.

Things have changed a bit since then.

[Mr. Scot]

25 minutes ago, mbarbour21 said:

Most of the analysts will grab on the coattail of the Panthers and act like they were there the whole time. They will "explain away" why they thought Cam wouldn't play well and how they were REALLY justified in their assessment. How Cam had a billion problems but he fixed them! It's a miracle!!!! They will completely overlook the fact he had a horrible o-line, newbie coach, no consistency with receivers/OCs...yada....yada....yada. You know the story.

My point being, we will be universally hated by fans of rival teams. Not necessarily division teams; but teams like Seattle, Arizona, NE (their fans are horrible losers. See reaction to missed XP in 2nd quarter). I don't believe it will be the majority though. I also don't think race will play a factor since he will have FINALLY "PROVEN" he was good. Just my opinion tho. 

Winning cures all ills.

 

24 minutes ago, PghPanther said:

Hardly................the Panthers are closest thing to a marketable team for the next generation of fans....

......they are literally becoming the NFL's sesame street.........

If they have a strong presence over the next 5 years they will carry a generation of fans like the Steelers did in the 70's going from the joke of the NFL to a storied franchise.

Besides the Raiders hold that spot..........and have a great history with it.

I'd love for the Raiders to be relevant again.

It was more fun when they were the big villains of the league.

[MVPccaffrey]

Nah, we're gonna be closer to how the Golden State Warriors are viewed, I think

[Jmac]

1 hour ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

Instead of being seen as the underdog heroes of an expansion franchise capturing its first Super Bowl, the Carolina Panthers will be viewed largely as Villians if they get the win on Feb 7th. 

 

Of course we as fans of this team view our guys as the heroes. We know the type of character our players have, the true sportsman quality, hard nosed physical style of play we have become accustomed to, but to most nation wide, we are largely an unknown. I mean how many times this year alone can you remember the media, opposing fans or any one else in general get something completely wrong about our team? Probably a lot right. Which brings me to my point. 

We will be hated and seen as Villians if we win because of three big reasons.

1. We will have shown how wrong the sports media has been about Cam and our team in general the last 5 years. They look terribly bad and now have to back track years of "hot takes" because we were doubted all year and they HAVE to talk about us. Quick example. Watch the NFLN "Around the NFL" guys. Each week they talk about Bold predictions then recap the games the following Monday. Every week you see the begrudging attitude they've had to us continuously winning week after week. They were dumbfounded. Lots of "how are they doing this?!?" "Shouldn't they suck?" Etc. 

 

2. We will have robbed NFL golden boy Peyton Manning a chance to ride off into the sunset with one last SB victory to call it a career(This is a big point and will led into my next one.) More and more we are hearing reports Peyton is viewing this as his last game ever. Peyton is pretty much universily loved/respected around the NFL which is completely justified. 5 time MVP, arguably the best regular season QB of all time. True master of the game. With that love and respect will bring distain to the opposition of such a goal. We are the final boss that stands in front of Peyton and the NFL happy ending. 

 

3. White vs. Black. It's nearly impossible to argue racism doesn't still exist in our society today. We as a fan base have had the all to unfortunate pleasure of witnessing this racism because of our QB. I mean, the Titans forum has a 100 page anti cam thread showcasing who can be more thinly veiled racist, it's quite a feat. If you aren't a Carolina or Denver fan you won't be rooting for the team but for players. Like I said previously Peyton is universily loved. This will cause a lot of casual observers or people with out a dog to pull for Peyton. Let's not kid ourselves, a good majority of casuals will being pulling for Peyton because he is white and rooting against Newton because he is black. If we win this will harbor resentment that will not leave regardless of how good a person Cam is or how deserving he will have been throughout the year to win the SB. 

 

With all that being said being viewed as the villian isn't a bad thing. This will continuously give us that chip on our shoulder we have had throughout this season which is good. We also will know in our heart of hearts we are the good guys who get looked at as bad so every one else feels better about themselves. Basically if we win we become The Dark Knights of the NFL. The team the NFL deserves but doesn't need right now. So they will hunt us, hate us, and envy our success. But by God boys it will be quite enjoyable from the inside looking out, so prepare yourselves to wear your Cowl from here on out!

I don't buy that. This team is NOW full of high character guys that stay out of trouble and give back to the community. They purged the one problem child they had left. Look elsewhere for the villans, they aren't on this team.

[sr20nc]

I really don't care.  Cam is the future so the NFL and its fans is just gonna have to suck it up.  Our team is the real deal.

[Sam Mills Fan]

*yawn* Another thread about people trying to predict how we'll be "perceived" as if you can predict it or as if that matters.