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Is the O-line comprised of a bunch of dumbasses?

PhillyB

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http://www.panthers.com/news/article-1/O-line-shoulders-blame/3d17f9ec-cc52-4c3c-93ae-1ea55be72197

Carolina's offensive line stepped up to protect quarterback Jake Delhomme early this week. But the group did not expect the attackers to be onlookers and interested parties who lit up message boards, radio phone lines and Twitter pages with a fusillade of barbs aimed at the quarterback.

"You obviously feel awful," said center Ryan Kalil. "That's why I'm talking to you guys right now, so we can clear that all up.

"A lot of pressure is put on Jake, as the average Joe would view it, but in reality, it's kind of tough for him to make plays when he's got guys in his face and guys are tipping balls and the pocket's breaking down because we're not on the same page."

Delhomme took responsibility, but so did Kalil and his fellow linemen. The quarterback's struggles were more easily identifiable and quantifiable: four interceptions and 10 incompletions in seven attempts. But there were statistics for the offensive line that not only registered its struggles Sunday -- but illustrated the drastic, unexpected contrast between its performance against the Eagles and its work last year.

In pass protection, the line conceded five sacks and 10 quarterback hits on Sunday -- far beyond their per-game averages of just 1.25 sacks and 2.69 quarterback hits in 2008. They also allowed one quarterback hit every 3.9 pass plays Sunday, a rate more than twice as frequent as in 2008, when just one of every 10.1 pass plays ended with the passer absorbing a hit.

"I think the most frustrating part (is) that mistakes are being made that we haven't made before," Kalil said. "Maybe early last season, but they're things we put well behind us in the past. Easy things."

The simple explanation for the line's difficulty in keeping Delhomme, Josh McCown and Matt Moore upright would revolve around the Eagles' myriad and creative blitz packages. But neither Kalil nor left tackle Jordan Gross said that Philadelphia's tactics justified how the offensive line played.

"They ran a defense with linebackers as the defensive ends and ends as the (strong-side) and (weak-side) linebackers, and that just creates mismatches with our running backs," said Gross.

"That's simple stuff we should have been fine with."

"It was pretty much on us," added Kalil. "There was nothing we hadn't seen or worked against before. It was just a matter of communicating it out to everybody in a quicker fashion."

That responsibility starts with Kalil's slot.

"I think a lot of times, we're trying to read too much instead of just playing," he said. "Towards the end of the (quarterback's) cadence, we're trying to navigate where everybody's got to go, and it's too late at that point. Now it just turns into a guessing game, where hopefully they know this or that, so that's what happens. Then we got out of rhythm, got into bad situations and we know they're bringing pressure every play.

"Hopefully we won't get in that situation again. I don't think we will. I think we're an experienced enough line to where we can fix those things real quickly and put it behind us."

That experience, and the fact that the starting five up front returned intact, made Sunday's outcome so stunning.

"We claim to be a standard of this team as an offensive line," said Gross, "(but) we've got to do a lot better."

And they know that it's likely the Falcons will try the same tactics Philadelphia employed. Others will do the same, until the line proves it can stop them.

"It's only going to get worse, going to Atlanta," Gross said. "They did a great job pressuring (Miami quarterback Chad) Pennington (on Sunday) and they're going to be loving what they see on film.

"We've made our bed, and now we've got to lay in it. The only thing we can do is come back with some productive drives and not get in that situation again."

This is just one of many instances this week of Gross, Kalil, etc stepping up and going out of their way to defend jake's play as their fault. Has the Panthers organization completely duped these five guys? How is it that a couple dozen Carolina Huddle posters can see the obvious truth, but these guys who are down on the field with jake every single play don't have a clue what's going on?

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Maybe, the more I look at the game the more I see Jake telling his line who's blitzing, screaming who's blitzing, yet nobody picks up that player and sack, sack fumble.

Jake needs to protect the ball better and throw the ball away if there is no play to be made. He has been outstanding with good protection. Everybody knows he's terrible when constantly pressured. Only the Oline can take care of that part.

They've got Abraham this week, somebody very capable of putting a QB out for the year, the mans a beast. They'd better MAN UP big time and give the guy a second or two longer to at least get through his throwing motion.

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They did play like garbage. Obviously so did he.

but was the OL that bad....or was the play calling bad leaving everyone in a position to fail when the blitz was obviously coming. I mean the OL could be doing there job but they could simply be asked to do the wrong things based on the heavy blitz coming at them.

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Ummm... because Jake plays behind them, they can't see how bad he plays while on the field.

hahaha

...the post was tongue in cheek though. the point is, would they really be stepping up in his defense so strongly if there wasn't something to their insisting on taking the blame?

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The thing is, they are a very big reason why Jake played so poorly. They allowed 5 sacks on Sunday....they only allowed 20 all of 2008. Then, on top of that, the QB's got hit another 10 times. If you cant see that the O-Line played like absolute poo, then you are just blind. Im not saying Jake isnt horrible, because he is, but the line definitely shoulders a lot of the blame for Sundays debacle.

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I'm not picking on the Hoov but he didn't look too good Sunday either especially on that goal line play.

yeah, the Hoov had an off day....I know on one big goal line play he slipped in the backfield and then could make his lead block that cost us.

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http://www.panthers.com/news/article-1/O-line-shoulders-blame/3d17f9ec-cc52-4c3c-93ae-1ea55be72197

This is just one of many instances this week of Gross, Kalil, etc stepping up and going out of their way to defend jake's play as their fault. Has the Panthers organization completely duped these five guys? How is it that a couple dozen Carolina Huddle posters can see the obvious truth, but these guys who are down on the field with jake every single play don't have a clue what's going on?

Let's not pretend like the OL wasn't complete poo on Sunday...

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