The new Brady vs. Manning

[Khyber53]

Come Sunday, we can expect to see a changing of the guard in the NFL coverage of great QBs. It's a generational thing and we're seeing the end of the Brady vs. Manning era. Next up will be the Wilson vs. Newton era as these are the two QBs that are and will exemplify what football will be for the next generation.

Manning and Brady were the technicians, the ultimate pocket passers and game generals. The narrative is also the heralded one out of college vs the scrappy sixth rounder. Cam's that first round pick and Wilson came a bit later and with less fanfare. And just like before, the unheralded guy got the ring first, with the second trailing behind. 

This is the best QB matchup in the game right now, with teams built to fit the mold of their leaders. And the NFL is going to eat it up. Brady vs. Manning. Marino vs. Montana. Bradshaw vs. Staubach. Starr vs. Unitas. Graham vs. Tittle.

We've got this one come Sunday, but be prepared for this match up to be a regular happening and the NFL's marquis games for years to come.

Go Panthers!

 

[goodoleboy]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

Come Sunday, we can expect to see a changing of the guard in the NFL coverage of great QBs. It's a generational thing and we're seeing the end of the Brady vs. Manning era. Next up will be the Wilson vs. Newton era as these are the two QBs that are and will exemplify what football will be for the next generation.

Manning and Brady were the technicians, the ultimate pocket passers and game generals. The narrative is also the heralded one out of college vs the scrappy sixth rounder. Cam's that first round pick and Wilson came a bit later and with less fanfare. And just like before, the unheralded guy got the ring first, with the second trailing behind. 

This is the best QB matchup in the game right now, with teams built to fit the mold of their leaders. And the NFL is going to eat it up. Brady vs. Manning. Marino vs. Montana. Bradshaw vs. Staubach. Starr vs. Unitas. Graham vs. Tittle.

We've got this one come Sunday, but be prepared for this match up to be a regular happening and the NFL's marquis games for years to come.

Go Panthers!

 

Luck gets back into the conversation eventually. The media has to have a white QB to drool over.

[FootballMaestro]

9 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Come Sunday, we can expect to see a changing of the guard in the NFL coverage of great QBs. It's a generational thing and we're seeing the end of the Brady vs. Manning era. Next up will be the Wilson vs. Newton era as these are the two QBs that are and will exemplify what football will be for the next generation.

Manning and Brady were the technicians, the ultimate pocket passers and game generals. The narrative is also the heralded one out of college vs the scrappy sixth rounder. Cam's that first round pick and Wilson came a bit later and with less fanfare. And just like before, the unheralded guy got the ring first, with the second trailing behind. 

This is the best QB matchup in the game right now, with teams built to fit the mold of their leaders. And the NFL is going to eat it up. Brady vs. Manning. Marino vs. Montana. Bradshaw vs. Staubach. Starr vs. Unitas. Graham vs. Tittle.

We've got this one come Sunday, but be prepared for this match up to be a regular happening and the NFL's marquis games for years to come.

Go Panthers!

 

Please tell Russell Wilson to throw, and remain in the pocket if he's going to be compared to Brady (I'm assuming) or Manning.

Shouldn't that be a criteria if were going to list it?

And let's get it right Cam's a #1 overall pick, as well as an Heisman Trophy, and National championship winner (if we're going to go the comparison/hyperbole route).

[Khyber53]

10 minutes ago, FootballMaestro said:

Please tell Russell Wilson to throw, and remain in the pocket if he's going to be compared to Brady (I'm assuming) or Manning.

Shouldn't that be a criteria if were going to list it?

And let's get it right Cam's a #1 overall pick, as well as an Heisman Trophy, and National championship winner (if we're going to go the comparison/hyperbole route).

You missed one of the points in the generational change -- mobile QBs are the next generation. The pure pocket passer will never go away, but they will be seen as missing something in their game. Brady and Manning were the complete packages of the last decade and a half, but their lack of mobility won't play as well into the big narrative.

 

[TheRumGone]

Geez some of y'all are so butthurt. Good OP and yes I think these two teams will be battling it out for several years with cam and RW as the faces of the rivalry.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Russell is so freaking lucky outside the pocket. I'm not even sure if its luck or skill now. The line has been blurred. With that throw when they fumbled the snap....I was thinking. Damn it's over for them. All of a sudden he heaves the ball opposite the way he's going and turning his body around...and someone catches it..its like..wtf man?

 

Newton has grown into a better QB, the scary part is that he's not done growing. He's not even reached his ceiling yet. That's definitely scary. Russell may have the hardware for the time being but we'll look back and see that this rivalry will be that of Champions..

[FootballMaestro]

5 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

You missed one of the points in the generational change -- mobile QBs are the next generation. The pure pocket passer will never go away, but they will be seen as missing something in their game. Brady and Manning were the complete packages of the last decade and a half, but their lack of mobility won't play as well into the big narrative.

 

You didn't exactly, expressly say this:

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Come Sunday, we can expect to see a changing of the guard in the NFL coverage of great QBs. It's a generational thing and we're seeing the end of the Brady vs. Manning era. Next up will be the Wilson vs. Newton era as these are the two QBs that are and will exemplify what football will be for the next generation.

Manning and Brady were the technicians, the ultimate pocket passers and game generals. The narrative is also the heralded one out of college vs the scrappy sixth rounder. Cam's that first round pick and Wilson came a bit later and with less fanfare. And just like before, the unheralded guy got the ring first, with the second trailing behind. 

This is the best QB matchup in the game right now, with teams built to fit the mold of their leaders. And the NFL is going to eat it up. Brady vs. Manning. Marino vs. Montana. Bradshaw vs. Staubach. Starr vs. Unitas. Graham vs. Tittle.

We've got this one come Sunday, but be prepared for this match up to be a regular happening and the NFL's marquis games for years to come.

Go Panthers!

But OK. We'll take your word for it. LOL

Don't worry. Not trying to hijack your thread.

It's cool.

 

[FootballMaestro]

33 minutes ago, goodoleboy said:

Luck gets back into the conversation eventually. The media has to have a white QB to drool over.

And actually, Luck and Newton's playing style, bodies, and resumes are more similar than Wilson and Newton's.

Of course they play in different conferences. So that takes away from the rivalry aspect, unless they play often, or in the Superbowl.

We'll see?

[Frank Hollywood]

While I agree with what you just said, if Brady and the Broncos are still around next week it will be talked about much more than Cam and whomever we're playing from the NFC. It will be their last face off.

[TXHawk]

13 minutes ago, FootballMaestro said:

Please tell Russell Wilson to throw, and remain in the pocket if he's going to be compared to Brady (I'm assuming) or Manning.

Shouldn't that be a criteria if were going to list it?

And let's get it right Cam's a #1 overall pick, as well as an Heisman Trophy, and National championship winner (if we're going to go the comparison/hyperbole route).

Wilson's qb rating from the pocket this year was 118.6, the highest of any qb in the last three seasons.    He completed 72.8%, 8.75 yards per attempt, 31 TDs, 7 Ints from the pocket.

And I have no idea what college accolades have to do with anything but Wilson holds the FBS single seaon record for passing efficiency (191.8).  Remind me again what college awards Brady won and what round he was drafted in?

[Peppers90 NC]

This might be one of the best era's in football regarding the QB position. I'm not sure there have been more good to great QB's at one time in any point in the history of the game.

[ecu88]

Nice write up!  I think we are going to see a beautiful upward trend continue for this team for a long time.

[FootballMaestro]

1 minute ago, TXHawk said:

Wilson's qb rating from the pocket this year was 118.6, the highest of any qb in the last three seasons.    He completed 72.8%, 8.75 yards per attempt, 31 TDs, 7 Ints from the pocket.

And I have no idea what college accolades have to do with anything but Wilson holds the FBS single seaon record for passing efficiency (191.8).  Remind me again what college awards Brady won and what round he was drafted in?

I love how Seattle fans talk about stats.

RG3 and Kaepernick had great stats as well. But neither could throw from the pocket well or read defenses, outside of quick one read throws (as Wilson for a large part).

First of all: If you look at "stats" many of Wilson's TD's are not actually from the pocket. They're out of the pocket when he rolls out. So stop with the nonsense.

During his recent hot streak when he did throw from the pocket, the ball was out of his hands quick. That's how Seattle designed it. Earlier in the year, when he tried to stay in the pocket and held on to the ball too long, he was getting sacked a lot. You know that.

So is Wilson a good QB, particularly in Seattle's scheme? Yes he his. No argument there.

However, he's not a pocket QB to say the least. He's too small. He needs to get the ball out quick. And if his first and second receiver are covered, he will more likely run. Drew Brees is short to. But he's figured out how to shift his feet and look between the creases of the OL and defenses. Russell rolls out to buy time and to see. Those are just the facts.

Yesterday's game was a prime example. Wilson did entirely nothing during the entire game from the pocket (no crappy defense and on the road). And the minor success he had during the game was outside of it (busted Tyler Locket play and the ensuing TD). So I find it ironic and hilarious that you would actually argue this after yesterday's games, especially with "stats"

Seattle runs a good scheme for Wilson. And he's very opportunistic outside the pocket. And usually throws well on the run, rolling out (except deep, where I think he floats to many).

However, he's not an excellent pocket QB to say the least.

This is why you also need the eye test. Otherwise, Blake Bortles and Kirk Cousins would be considered top QB's.

PS: What did Wilson do in yesterday's game from the pocket (nothing)?

[TheRumGone]

8 minutes ago, TXHawk said:

Wilson's qb rating from the pocket this year was 118.6, the highest of any qb in the last three seasons.    He completed 72.8%, 8.75 yards per attempt, 31 TDs, 7 Ints from the pocket.

And I have no idea what college accolades have to do with anything but Wilson holds the FBS single seaon record for passing efficiency (191.8).  Remind me again what college awards Brady won and what round he was drafted in?

Excuse some posters who have an agenda and get butthurt if someone compares to Cam in some way. Posters in here need to realize just how devestatingly cold it was yesterday. That isn't to say Seattle did not get lucky because they did, but if any athlete has played in temps like that and thinks an offense is going to light up the score board then they are lying and haven't played in cold weather. That was not the norm for seattles offense the past 8 weeks or so. Anyone can point to the Rams game and then anyone can point to the ATL game for us.

Talk poo all you want about RW being a scrambler, lucky, whatever. He gets it done and I fuging hate him for that. But he has shown this season he can make plays from the pocket. Before this year? Not so much.

This is going to be a tough game but I'm confident the NFL MVP can get it done and I'm confident our defense can make plays to stop them. Yalls time is over.