#CAMVP confirmed

[Ruff]

5 hours ago, KillerKat said:

I just played the game in Madden and won 45-27. Olsen and Cam had a big day. We got a pick 6 too. We got this.

Yeah, but did you play Cam in Madden? (That's an old school Huddle joke these new bandwagon fans won't get)

[CelibatePimp]

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2016/1/2/10701790/cam-newton-mvp-carson-palmer-better-tom-brady-too

An argument against Cam based on stats from a seahawks blog.

It's really interesting to see how the talk here has changed, while many here were crucifying Andrew Luck last year when he was balling out because of "easy schedule" and a career sub 60%, some of us here kept saying it was beyond stats and schedule. I'm glad some of you now realize that it is not all about stats but don't expect the world to give Cam a pass when you've held other QBs to a similar standard in the past.

[KendrickPanther]

I haven't watched a ton of Cardinals football but it sounds to me like Carson Palmer is in a great system with some talented personnel. Cam is in a good system to but Cam is the system.

[KendrickPanther]

Any argument involving dvoa, strength of schedule or any other numbers turns me off immediately. If you poke around long enough you can find the correct numbers to support any argument. It doesn't make it a good one. Numbers are easily skewed. At one point this year if you had awarded all of the Panthers wins to their opponents it would have put 7 teams above .500. When you win often and beat teams to a pulp often, your opponents numbers look worse. 

[TheRed]

5 hours ago, CelibatePimp said:

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2016/1/2/10701790/cam-newton-mvp-carson-palmer-better-tom-brady-too

An argument against Cam based on stats from a seahawks blog.

It's really interesting to see how the talk here has changed, while many here were crucifying Andrew Luck last year when he was balling out because of "easy schedule" and a career sub 60%, some of us here kept saying it was beyond stats and schedule. I'm glad some of you now realize that it is not all about stats but don't expect the world to give Cam a pass when you've held other QBs to a similar standard in the past.

Oh fug right off dude.

Why have you been so quiet throughout this historic season for our franchise, only to show up and shitpost every now and again?

[teeray]

5 hours ago, CelibatePimp said:

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2016/1/2/10701790/cam-newton-mvp-carson-palmer-better-tom-brady-too

An argument against Cam based on stats from a seahawks blog.

It's really interesting to see how the talk here has changed, while many here were crucifying Andrew Luck last year when he was balling out because of "easy schedule" and a career sub 60%, some of us here kept saying it was beyond stats and schedule. I'm glad some of you now realize that it is not all about stats but don't expect the world to give Cam a pass when you've held other QBs to a similar standard in the past.

Im totally guilty of the Luck criticism and the AFC South.

BUT a big difference to me is Luck was winning 6 games in their weak ass division, and going .500 outside it and would finish 11-5.  NFC South is still a better division than the AFC South

We are 10-0 outside our division

We arent the first team to have a favorable schedule.  But we are only one of a few in NFL history to go 14-0.

Not to mention that the main complaint by outsiders about our schedule is basically saying we had an easy schedule because we never played Zona or New England.  And ignore that we won in Seattle

[UpstatePanther]

12 hours ago, Rags said:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article52633590.html

"Nineteen of the 25 voters who responded said they either planned to vote for Newton for MVP or were leaning toward Newton, barring a disastrous performance in the regular-season finale against the Buccaneers.

Five respondents were undecided, and Paul Domowitch of the Philadelphia Daily News is voting for Arizona quarterback Carson Palmer."

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Now we just need the Panthers to lock up the top seed today and go on to win the Super Bowl. This season has already been, debateably, the best season in franchise history. Just need to cap it off right. To win this many games and in the fashion we've won them, it would be a huge disappointment to not make the Super Bowl.

[Pox 08]

I read that fieldgulls article.    That bitch is all over the place trying to make points.  He contradicts himself a few times.      He brings up qb rating.     falsely believing and implying that qb rating should matter a LOT....when it comes to an award that is supposed to be all-inclusive.       The amount of cherry picking in that thing made my head hurt.

 

What I also find funny is how the detractors that are for either Brady or Palmer,    Constantly bring up how Cam's defense should get all the credit.      Both the Pats and Cards defenses have a better ppg defense than the Panthers.  lol.

[CPF4LIFE]

11 hours ago, mcdougal said:

As it relates to Cam vs. Carson, the only thing folks need to know is that Ted Ginn Jr., Cam Newton's No. 1 WR, could not even get on the field in AZ against the same WRs that Palmer has been throwing to. 

I am amazed i havent thought of it threw that perspective yet. Ginn was a bench warmer on that squad last year. Now 10 TDs year later with Cam.

[Cookie Lyon]

42 minutes ago, Pox 08 said:

I read that fieldgulls article.    That bitch is all over the place trying to make points.  He contradicts himself a few times.      He brings up qb rating.     falsely believing and implying that qb rating should matter a LOT....when it comes to an award that is supposed to be all-inclusive.       The amount of cherry picking in that thing made my head hurt.

 

What I also find funny is how the detractors that are for either Brady or Palmer,    Constantly bring up how Cam's defense should get all the credit.      Both the Pats and Cards defenses have a better ppg defense than the Panthers.  lol.

The comment section is just as bad as the article.

It's amazing how far some people reach to try to push false narratives. I just don't get it.

[ecu88]

49 minutes ago, Pox 08 said:

I read that fieldgulls article.    That bitch is all over the place trying to make points.  He contradicts himself a few times.      He brings up qb rating.     falsely believing and implying that qb rating should matter a LOT....when it comes to an award that is supposed to be all-inclusive.       The amount of cherry picking in that thing made my head hurt.

 

What I also find funny is how the detractors that are for either Brady or Palmer,    Constantly bring up how Cam's defense should get all the credit.      Both the Pats and Cards defenses have a better ppg defense than the Panthers.  lol.

 

2 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

The comment section is just as bad as the article.

It's amazing how far some people reach to try to push false narratives. I just don't get it.

Yeah the Salt Factory is working OT for those butthurt fans

[CelibatePimp]

3 hours ago, teeray said:

Im totally guilty of the Luck criticism and the AFC South.

BUT a big difference to me is Luck was winning 6 games in their weak ass division, and going .500 outside it and would finish 11-5.  NFC South is still a better division than the AFC South

We are 10-0 outside our division

We arent the first team to have a favorable schedule.  But we are only one of a few in NFL history to go 14-0.

Not to mention that the main complaint by outsiders about our schedule is basically saying we had an easy schedule because we never played Zona or New England.  And ignore that we won in Seattle

Truth is Peyton and Brady have made HOF careers feasting on the weak AFCS and AFCE respectively. There is no shame in that. As we have all insisted you play the schedule you are given. I'm just saying that no one should be angry when people make those arguments against Cam since we made it here ourselves.

[CelibatePimp]

59 minutes ago, Pox 08 said:

I read that fieldgulls article.    That bitch is all over the place trying to make points.  He contradicts himself a few times.      He brings up qb rating.     falsely believing and implying that qb rating should matter a LOT....when it comes to an award that is supposed to be all-inclusive.       The amount of cherry picking in that thing made my head hurt.

 

What I also find funny is how the detractors that are for either Brady or Palmer,    Constantly bring up how Cam's defense should get all the credit.      Both the Pats and Cards defenses have a better ppg defense than the Panthers.  lol.

Funny thing is that dude tried to say he hates Palmer more but it's so evident that his saltiness for Cam is showing. It's normal, everyone wants their QB to be THE young QB. We did it here to both Wilson and Luck last season. All this means is that Cam has made it.

[tiger7_88]

11 hours ago, truthjuice said:

I watched First Take I believe and the narrative was that Cam can't be MVP because of the schedule they have and that the defense has carried the team 

lololol