Can we win without Kemo?

[MyDrunkardNC]

Kemo will be a critical loss. My guess is he will not play, since he didn't practice and they were trying out linemen today. Of course, it could be a screen, as someone said, but that seems like a stupid thing to do.

[Snake]

I think we can win without Kemo. We shut down the #1 offense in the league and made them look silly without him so I think we can do it again. Vincent is gonna hurt us though cause he is one hell of a run blocker and really we dont have any great at the G pos to replace him.

[Snake]

That DL=NYG having 300 yards rushing.

IMO Walker is the best choice. He is a vet and is ok at both rushing and run stopping. Still we will be small and have to use blitzing some.

[rubberpantz]

Why is no one talking about Keydrick whats the word with that fat son of a bitch?

that's what i want to know. there doesn't seem to be any update on his condition.

[SCP]

That's the beauty of this team.....we have DEPTH. KEMO will be missed if he doesn't suit up, but he's further down the list when sweating an injury. I think we'll be fine.

Sorry man, but Kemo will be more than "missed" if he doesn't play. Big guys like Kemo keep offensive lineman from getting to the second level and blocking linebackers.

I am going to the church to pray.

[Ncstatefan]

Yes but with contradicting articles, including one today saying he won't play and players say he will, But I think we can still win without him. I'm more worried about Vincent and Kemo through the playoffs.

[pantherclaw]

While playing without Kemo will be a BIG loss, we can still win this game. Our guys will have to step up. Specially since Beason won't be running free as much as he usually does.

[mountainpantherfan]

No one thought Carstens could replace Jenkins, while he wasn't as good as Jenkins he did a damn good job and got us to the NFCCG. Would I prefer to have Kemo, yeah, but losing him doesn't mean we cannot win this game.

[Scrumtrilescent]

I'll edit my prediction: 247 yards.

[thejimmy]

and Charles Johnson was said by some ESPN anaylsts to become a probowl defensive linemen in years to come.

Hey, welcome.

[Mr. Scot]

Mentioned in the other thread that we don't have a true "nose guard" type other than Kemo on the defensive line. The guys backing him up are more tradional '3 technique' style DTs.

As is, a lot of the scheming depends on Kemo's ability to occupy a couple of blockers on run downs. For the record, it isn't absolutely necessary to have sheer bulk to be able to do this. There are guys like Greg Kragen who manage to do it without being huge.

That kind of guy is, however, rare. And I can't honestly say I look at any of our current backups and see "that guy". If they are, Sunday night will be their chance to show it. If not, we'll have issues.

[panthers55]

It is interesting to me that people were talking about what a waste Kemo was in the past and now we have to have him to win.

I really think we need to play a 5 man line against the Giants. Without great receivers and an ability to put us in the nickle we should consider putting Davis up and let Harris fill that spot especially on running downs. It allows us to use a more 1 gap rush instead of 2 gap like we do with Kemo and keep linemen from getting to Beason. If they go to 3 receiver sets or use a lot of tight end passing formations then back him out and put Harris in coverage. But Dallas showed us that their receivers can't get separation in tight man coverage and that Eli isn't all that accurate. He also fades under pressure. We need to shoot the gaps which turns into a pressure look like a blitz on play action or if they throw the ball. Manning has not gone deep that often so we should not fear the long ball. I think we need to play physical and pressure them as Dallas and Philly did the past 2 weeks. Both of them have shown that it is a formula that works against the Giants.

[Mr. Scot]

It is interesting to me that people were talking about what a waste Kemo was in the past and now we have to have him to win.

I really think we need to play a 5 man line against the Giants. Without great receivers and an ability to put us in the nickle we should consider putting Davis up and let Harris fill that spot especially on running downs. It allows us to use a more 1 gap rush instead of 2 gap like we do with Kemo and keep linemen from getting to Beason. If they go to 3 receiver sets or use a lot of tight end passing formations then back him out and put Harris in coverage. But Dallas showed us that their receivers can't get separation in tight man coverage and that Eli isn't all that accurate. He also fades under pressure. We need to shoot the gaps which turns into a pressure look like a blitz on play action or if they throw the ball. Manning has not gone deep that often so we should not fear the long ball. I think we need to play physical and pressure them as Dallas and Philly did the past 2 weeks. Both of them have shown that it is a formula that works against the Giants.

Denver went pretty much 4-4 (with a safety in Siberia) against us, It didn't work because we had Steve Smith.

Shared name aside, none of the Giant receivers is Steve Smith. Still, how comfortable do we feel putting our corners on an island?

[panthers55]

Denver went pretty much 4-4 (with a safety in Siberia) against us, It didn't work because we had Steve Smith.

Shared name aside, none of the Giant receivers is Steve Smith. Still, how comfortable do we feel putting our corners on an island?

Denver's 4-4 was not an attacking defense but a contain defense which didn't blitz that much. If we can get pressure on Eli then they won't be stranded on an island. A lot of our confusions this year have been in zone coverage when we transistion receivers from short zone to deep zone with the safeties making poor reads. By putting the corners in coverage primarily you avoid that but have to be stout against the run since the DBs have their back to the ball or play. Hence the need for a 5 man line. So for me it wouldn't be a 4-4 as much as 5-2 or 4-3 depending of situation and circumstance. If their receivers start catching balls then we will have to adjust which is something Denver didn't do. But if we are going to get pressure we will have to rush at least 5 to get pressure. Without Kemo to occupy 2 blocks it means they can double other folks and bust open a hole or keep Peppers at bay.

But I am sure it is all speculation since we will likely play a bend don't break defense again this week that hopefully won't make Eli look all world.