KK Short Is The Carolina Panthers Defensive MVP

[panthers55]

I love KK.  He is like Warren Sapp was for Tampa and Oakland years ago.  It is hard to find a DT with speed and strength.  Hard choice between the 3 people though.

[electro's horse]

making hard choices is part of having good players. Even with Johnson's albatross contract coming to an end, the Panthers are not going to be able to keep Norman, Star, and KK long term. Trai and Norwell are going to want money too. 

Luckily the Panthers are entering a period where they'll be able to attract cheap veterans who want a shot at a ring, and hopefully Gettleman keeps drafting well and finding those high value/low cost free agents.

Also if I was coleman I'd be holding the fug out after the year I just had. 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/kurt-coleman/

[DelhommesTheMan]

That's why the Panthers defense is so brutal to scheme against because they have a legit Superstar All Pro talent at every level.  Short on the line, Luke in the middle, and Norman in the secondary.  How many teams have that kind of talent at every level of the defense?  That doesn't even include TD, Star, CJ, Coleman, and the young guys like Ealy and Shaq who are playing awesome.  

[electro's horse]

it shouldn't include CJ tbqh

[PandaPancake]

I love KK. That's all. I'm going to go put on my KK jersey so everyone thinks I'm a bad ass 

[Bartin]

51 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

star won't demand that big of a contract. top ten money for his position bottoms out at 6 a year, which we can afford when charles johnson's hit clears

Kawann is probably looking at $12-14M a year with the way 3 tech DT contracts have been trending.

[Zaximus]

I wouldn't give Star a huge contract yet, he's had those nagging foot injuries that worry me for a big.

[Sam Mills Fan]

I think this thread is a ridiculous hot take. Don't overthink this: it's obviously Kuechly as it's been every year he's been here. We won every game he missed? Those games were Jacksonville (he only missed second half), Houston (came close to losing to Ryan Mallett), New Orleans (came even closer to losing to Luke McCown), and Tampa Bay. We've been mostly murdering teams from the point Kuechly returned.

[Mojo]

2 hours ago, nctarheel0619 said:

It's Norman or Luke.  I love KK, but we've always had a dominant pass rush, but never have we had a shut down corner to go along with that.  Norman has been that and much more, Defensive MVP is his for sure.  

KK's not even the best DT in the conference.  Hello Aaron Donald.  While there is no competition for J-No right now in the NFC.  

Yeah man, Aaron Donald is a freak of nature.  That's obviously no slight to Short, but AD is just crazy.

[CPF4LIFE]

You can also take a very good d line out of a game with quick passes. (Patriots). That's when u need a good secondary to cover. I think Norman and other dbs being so good have played a part in making it hard for teams to neutralize Short. 

[PhillyB]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Corey Liuget is a good comparison point

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego-chargers/corey-liuget/

ehh look at his 2014 statline before he got that contract. it blows star's production out of the water. star is a very good 4-3 NT which will give him leverage more so than say a 3-4DE like liuget but i don't see star commanding more than 5/40m on an open market, not based on this as a contract year (tho he could play next year on the option)

[PhillyB]

47 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Kawann is probably looking at $12-14M a year with the way 3 tech DT contracts have been trending.

yeah he'll get paid top three 3-tech  when gettleman extends him. well worth it

[nctarheel0619]

1 hour ago, 15 said:

Did you just say we've always had a dominant pass rush lol? You mean as long as you've been a fan?

I meant recently.  As long as I've been a fan?  Coming from a guy that pulls for the Miami Hurricanes, Carolina Panthers, and I don't even want to know the other teams, but is born and raised in Cali?  That's really rich, extremely rich.  

[luke nukem]

at the end of he day we have a top 3 DT, a top 3 CB, and 2 of the top 5 LB's. We good fam.