Pro Bowl Results!!!

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

28 minutes ago, PanthersUnited said:

Kurt Coleman a pro bowler.. Lol Gettle Mother Fuggin Magic.. That is all

Rivera

[RumHam]

I'm hoping Shula coaches Cleveland next year, just sayin.

[NavyPF4L]

5 hours ago, UpstatePanther said:

you cant reason with him T96. he's been a rabid Shula supporter for a while and completely ignores the fact that our talent level on offense is much better via experience and damn good drafting / free agency acquisitions. I will admit that Shula has a hand in those types of decisions, but no one can tell me that another coordinator wouldnt do better with what Gettleman gives him. we all know Gman is the guy pulling the strings, the coordinators and Rivera get input, but its Gman and his scouting department that supply us with talent. 

TL:DR... Shula is not the cause of our offensive success. We are winning in spite of him. there are times that our scheming and playcalling are still quite lacking, and yet our talent helps the team overcome the scheme/playcalling deficiency.

God... You can't fix stupid in these parts... Even with an undefeated record. You girls definitely smoking that good stuff.

[CarolinaSunday]

1 hour ago, RumHam said:

I'm hoping Shula coaches Cleveland next year, just sayin.

That's a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. 

[UpstatePanther]

2 hours ago, NavyPF4L said:

God... You can't fix stupid in these parts... Even with an undefeated record. You girls definitely smoking that good stuff.

What exactly did I say that warranted a personal insult? I even gave Shula a hand in the talent development of our offense. But how can I argue against a selective reader?

[panthers55]

8 hours ago, UpstatePanther said:

you cant reason with him T96. he's been a rabid Shula supporter for a while and completely ignores the fact that our talent level on offense is much better via experience and damn good drafting / free agency acquisitions. I will admit that Shula has a hand in those types of decisions, but no one can tell me that another coordinator wouldnt do better with what Gettleman gives him. we all know Gman is the guy pulling the strings, the coordinators and Rivera get input, but its Gman and his scouting department that supply us with talent. 

TL:DR... Shula is not the cause of our offensive success. We are winning in spite of him. there are times that our scheming and playcalling are still quite lacking, and yet our talent helps the team overcome the scheme/playcalling deficiency.

You can't argue with me because you have no leg to stand on. Until this year it was widely known we had the worse offensive talent in the league. All of what Shula did he did with UDFAs and a few veteran sprinkled in. Everyone thought when Benjamin went down that our receivers would suck as would the offense. So Shula creates a complex running game which is the most diverse in the league and designs the offense around Cam and suddenly we are number 1 in points scored. But Shula had nothing to do with it and can be replaced by most anyone.

You haters are laughable. Everyone sings Shula's praises and talks about how great ouroffenseive scheme is and yet you post as if your position is well accepted when it is you and the small band of critics standing alone looking foolish

[Kevin Greene]

19 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

 

You haters are laughable. 

Not sure why you're so extreme here. 

This year proved if nothing else, Gettlemen's roster as assembled is better than anyone imagined. Indeed it has outperformed any sane persons predictions for this season thus far.

Not that Shula is some sort of genius or that he is a failure, I think most Huddlers would find him adequate, improved as Rivera has, and hopefully the questionable game day play calling is a thing of the past.

[run1stdownrun2nddown]

At least its nice to see the pendulum has swung from "Cam has no weapons on offense, Gettleman doesn't care about Cam or offense!!!" to "There is so much talent on our offense, we could win with any offensive coordinator"

[TheNewStandard]

16 hours ago, PandaPancake said:

I'm still a Shula hater. I think they just unplugged his mic and letting Braylon call the plays.

Yeah, as much as Cam has been audibleing this season, it's really hard to judge Shula one way or the other.

one things for sure...aren't the Pamthers the #1 offense in the NFL? I mean, for our roster, the play calling has been a great fit.

i never was much of a hater, except for the draw-plays on 3rd and 7, but we really haven't seen much of that this year. I think it's a product of having so many possession receivers and the coaches having more options with a healthy Tolbert to throw screen passes too.

[UpstatePanther]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

You can't argue with me because you have no leg to stand on. Until this year it was widely known we had the worse offensive talent in the league. All of what Shula did he did with UDFAs and a few veteran sprinkled in. Everyone thought when Benjamin went down that our receivers would suck as would the offense. So Shula creates a complex running game which is the most diverse in the league and designs the offense around Cam and suddenly we are number 1 in points scored. But Shula had nothing to do with it and can be replaced by most anyone.

You haters are laughable. Everyone sings Shula's praises and talks about how great ouroffenseive scheme is and yet you post as if your position is well accepted when it is you and the small band of critics standing alone looking foolish

Actually, I've heard everyone praising Cam Newton and Jonathan Stewart for our offensive success. You do realize that Shula has gone more no-huddle this year right? You obviously don't understand what that means for the offense, or you'd know that it mean's Cam is the one that chooses the play at the LOS. Bark all you want about how they're still Shula designed plays, but where before Cam was forced to make do with a lackluster playcall, now he can choose situationally what play fits best. In other words, Shula has less control over this offense than ever and NOW we are scoring more points. Coincidence? I think not. Is it also coincidence that Shula's offense can only succeed with an offense that has nearly every piece in place? Mmmmnah I don't think so. The fact of the matter is that Shula is a below average OC propped up by a supremely talented offense given to him by a great players' coach and a GM that knows what the fug he is doing. Great offensive coordinators would have been able to scheme around our deficiencies the past two years while we built talent. Instead, Shula stubbornly stuck to his deficient philosophy to our detriment. 

I'm not having this argument with you anymore bro. It's old and tired. As long as the Panthers are winning, I couldnt give less fuqs about who the OC is. Take your opinion and I'll take mine. Let's light em up in the weed of our undefeated record and sing cumbaya. 

That said, I'm glad to know you still follow the Huddle there Mike.

[TheNewStandard]

7 hours ago, PanthersUnited said:

Kurt Coleman a pro bowler.. Lol Gettle Mother Fuggin Magic.. That is all

Gettleman got the green-light and has the foresight to sign off-season vets 2-year deals as opposed to the 1-year play-for-your contract deals he gave to Ginn and Mitchell in 2013.

this also makes me feel like it's a benefit of our system rather than a pure-talent acquisition. This is how the Patriots have been so successful and have no problem cashing-in off of players that excel because of the system they run.

we'll really get a good barometer of how much rerurn we get off of developed role-players who play like core-franchise guys once we are able to start hoarding draft-picks from trading away what everyone else sees as sure-fire talent instead of them simply being products of the coaching and development systems in place.

The crazy thing here is that half our team is seasoned vets while the other-half are on rookie-contracts. 

Another thing is that players will be knocking on our door to come be a part of a Franchise that is competing for Championships year-in, year-out. 

Just can't say enough about how great this team, it's coaches and the FO have built a culture of winning that is greater than simply the sum of its parts.

[UpstatePanther]

2 hours ago, Kevin Greene said:

Not sure why you're so extreme here. 

This year proved if nothing else, Gettlemen's roster as assembled is better than anyone imagined. Indeed it has outperformed any sane persons predictions for this season thus far.

Not that Shula is some sort of genius or that he is a failure, I think most Huddlers would find him adequate, improved as Rivera has, and hopefully the questionable game day play calling is a thing of the past.

See I tried to throw him that bone and he still decided to hijack my thread and turn it into an argument about something completely off target. Yes, Shula may well have improved. But I still see playcalls, and I know I'm not alone, where I'm left wondering what Shula is smoking. There are three things I feel are more adequate answers to our offensive success than "Shula knows what he's doing": 1) Cam is healthy and inproved, 2) Gettleman and Rivera have built and coached a damn fine roster, and 3) Shula gave up alot of control of the offense to Cam (and kudos to him for that). 

[TheNewStandard]

1 minute ago, UpstatePanther said:

See I tried to throw him that bone and he still decided to hijack my thread and turn it into an argument about something completely off target. Yes, Shula may well have improved. But I still see playcalls, and I know I'm not alone, where I'm left wondering what Shula is smoking. There are three things I feel are more adequate answers to our offensive success than "Shula knows what he's doing": 1) Cam is healthy and inproved, 2) Gettleman and Rivera have built and coached a damn fine roster, and 3) Shula gave up alot of control of the offense to Cam (and kudos to him for that). 

Yeah, Cam has made the grade and has become not only the face of this franchise and MVP, but has the rest of the league's vets clamoring to come play with a franchise who is on the cusp of a dynasty.

the scary thing is that we aren't even playing our best ball and missing our legitimate #1 receiver.

Dont worry National Media...there's plenty of crow being passed around even for our own fanbase and its prognosticators.

sorry about the doubters, Panthers. How could we have known?

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, Kevin Greene said:

Not sure why you're so extreme here. 

This year proved if nothing else, Gettlemen's roster as assembled is better than anyone imagined. Indeed it has outperformed any sane persons predictions for this season thus far.

Not that Shula is some sort of genius or that he is a failure, I think most Huddlers would find him adequate, improved as Rivera has, and hopefully the questionable game day play calling is a thing of the past.

You are the extreme one not me.  And it is the coaching staff taking what they are given and making the most of it. Whether on offense or defense. Both McDermott and Shula head up a great group of coaches who have done a terrific job with arguably average talent. Gettleman gets all the credit for finding Oher when Matso deserves the credit. The only time Oher has done well is when Matso coaches him. We have one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and we have huddle people like you who  don't even acknowledge it. 

That is one big reason people don't think we are good. They look at our talent based on what they have done elsewhere and say we don't have good talent. The truth is our players and coaches are just maximizing their potential.