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Atlanta Talk...the fans and media want to trade away Matt Ryan

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Cyberjag Newbie

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's been some chatter that Matt Ryan is having trouble with Kyle Shanahan's system.

I'm sure that came from Shanahan, somehow.

Matt Ryan is a hell of a good QB, and part of the reason we all hate him so much is because of how he played against us from 2008-2012.  Over the last two years we've finally gotten his number, but when he had all those weapons around him he looked pretty damned good.

Someday, Atlanta will get an offensive line that can keep the pressure off of him again.  Then he'll start looking like a good QB once more.

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3 minutes ago, Cyberjag said:

I'm sure that came from Shanahan, somehow.

Matt Ryan is a hell of a good QB, and part of the reason we all hate him so much is because of how he played against us from 2008-2012.  Over the last two years we've finally gotten his number, but when he had all those weapons around him he looked pretty damned good.

Someday, Atlanta will get an offensive line that can keep the pressure off of him again.  Then he'll start looking like a good QB once more.

Did Atlanta really have all that good a line in those prior years?

I can think of one big change in the lineup (not on OL) that happened in those years after 2012.

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I am in no way a Matt Ryan fan, buf if they think they are gonna go out and magically get a better QB, well, they got another thing coming.  There is a reason why Andy Dalton was given a gigantic payday, you may not win it all but you can be competitive if you have a middle tier QB and a good team around him (Russel Wilson, Joe Flacco, and Eli Manning come to mind), problem is they've poo the bed for so long on so many draft picks, I don't know where their talent in the trenches are gonna come from.

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Funny how 7 or 8 games ago everyone was all over Ryan's nuts and now they want to crucify him.  I bet the comment about not being on the same page as his OC might be an issue. Ryan has talent that hasn't suddenly gone away with arguably better talented receivers than he has had in the past. Up until the past couple of weeks they were scoring points and in the hunt. Don't fool yourself they will be tough to beat in their dome. That might be their superbowl  to spoil our season assuming we are 14-0 going into their house. I think he struggles under pressure and isn't particularly  mobile. Look what a good line did for Cam.  I don't like him at all and am enjoying his collapse but also don't underestimate him either.  He isn't going anywhere unless Atlanta get a top QB pick in next years draft. It isn't like there are 32 legitimate starters right now. If they got rid of him exactly who would they replace him with?  No we are going to have to put up with him for the next couple of years at least. I hope we crush them this Sunday. Make them get off our damn field. 

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Matt's a franchise QB. Unless they draft someone, they aren't going to get another franchise QB anytime soon.

Just too any holes on that team and their overall talent is not up to par and very-well may not ever have a true comtendor even for the division for some time.

Im not looking past them though. They have fire-power if they're all on the same page.

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15 hours ago, Haplo E said:

Winston is a similar leader to Cam. Guys follow him. The Bucs have two very good WR(maybe even 3) and a very good RB. They also struck gold in drafting Donovan Smith in the 2nd round as a franchise LT. As a result, they'll keep drafting defensive players the next few drafts. If not for a bunch of Mike Evans drops they'd probably be 8-4. The Bucs will be a playoffs team. It doesn't mean we'll regress.

Dude just stop.  Winston doesn't belong in the same sentence with Cam.  Once he beats Cam, wins the division or accomplishes something then I'll have a more open mind regarding his outlook.  Brady, Rodgers, Brees can't even compete with what Cam's doing right now and you're making declarations that put Winston on anything near the same level as Cam?  Can't imagine how your aren't a very wealthy sports better with your keen ability to predict everything.  I'll take facts over speculation all day.  Fact 1 - Cam is light years ahead of Jameis.  Fact 2. - Carolina just won their 3rd straight division title.

Now if I want to speculate like you are.  I speculate Cam will only continue to get better, continuously moving the mark Jameis has to achieve to beat him.  I speculate that Carolina's front office and coaching staff will continue to put a superior team on the field.  I speculate Carolina will have a very long run in the NFCS, and while Tampa may sneak in and win occasionally, they'll be playing for a wild card most of the time.

With all that said, I like Jameis, and I do think he'll be a very good QB.  At this point you have earn being mentioned with Cam though.

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23 minutes ago, Haplo E said:

Dude, you just said exactly what I say but more verbose.

As far as the NFC South is concerned Carolina and Tampa will alternate division title and wild card, don't see us sending 3 teams to the playoffs every year.

 

No I didn't.  You speculated Carolina and Tampa would alternate titles as if Tampa were going to ascend to a level to continuously challenge the Panthers.  I'm speculating they MAY SNEAK IN OCCASIONALLY, injuries and playing a 1st place schedule every year may allow that.  But my opinion is firmly that Carolina will be the better team for a long time, and that opinion is supported with has happened vs. what anyone may speculate can happen.

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