Jacobs has torn PCL...

[Fox007]

This could work out in our favor, he may suck up the place because of that knee, and the Giants will be trying to feed him the ball.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

QUOTE=ask ray lewis;) about jacobs..

All hail the Quotemaster!

[goodoleboy]

They are floating the Jacobs will play stuff out there while they rep the short passing game that always bites us in the butt.

[PantherPearly]

I feel bad for the guy. I dont think hes makin alot this year, and hes a free next year. Id hate to see him get severely injured against us because he rushed it. And we do have a history of hurting guys.

[Mr. Scot]

Call me crazy, but as physical as this team is and with our wierd history of knocking out star players in the past....I would be concerned as a Giants fan with him playing from here on out.

Valid observation.

I know the team isn't dirty, but that's happened a good number of times.

[Pimpdaddy]

They must be desperate for sure. Sounds like he could really mess up his knee with the wrong hit. Maybe Dr. Gamble should take a look at it... LOL

[Pimpdaddy]

They must be desperate for sure. Sounds like he could really mess up his knee with the wrong hit. Maybe Dr. Gamble should take a look at it... lol,

just kidding.

[Henne Given Sunday]

I played with a fully torn PCL from my junior year of highschool through 2 years of college.....john elway had a torn pcl and played as well....its the ligament behind the acl....it leaves you open to tearing your ACL easier....but if your taking a hit that would tear it regardless of pcl or not.....it will injury you badly....i played the next week after tearing it....strapped a brace on and i was fine...its a deep injury, doctors dont like doing the surgery cause its so deep into my knee, so i never had it (also it is a longer rehab then acl tear) he should be 100%....or close to it....its nothing that will keep a badass bruiser like him down....he should be fine...

[Chaos]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/23/can-merriman-play-with-torn-pcl/

Shawn Merriman apparently was playing with a torn PCL in our first game this season....how did that work out?

Exactly! I was going to make this point, but you nailed it. Deep down in places they don't talk about at parties, the Giants want and need this game bad, more so than they would ever let on, because they are going the wrong way at the wrong time. It would be a mistake for Jacobs to play, but he's a grown man. Don't go crying about it (G fans) if something bad happens.

[Henne Given Sunday]

Exactly! I was going to make this point, but you nailed it. Deep down in places they don't talk about at parties, the Giants want and need this game bad, more so than they would ever let on, because they are going the wrong way at the wrong time. It would be a mistake for Jacobs to play, but he's a grown man. Don't go crying about it (G fans) if something bad happens.

why? its a big game, and the injury is semi-serious....

[Chaos]

why? its a big game, and the injury is semi-serious....

Well, I'm not a doctor, and you stated your case about your particular injury, but to the layman, a partially torn knee ligament sounds like further injury, surgery, and rehab could be one play away.

But, you're right, he should play, because he's likely no better off in the playoffs then he is right now should he continue to sit out. He's just playing with a higher risk factor than everyone else, and won't be at 100% of his potential.

Fine with me.

[Huffgolf30]

he won't be 100% for a while with that and after missing several weeks. I doubt he gets that many carries against us. Even if he doesn't they have other good RB's, so it's pointless to breath a sigh of relief. I just want us to play up to our potential on offense and we will be fine.

[Henne Given Sunday]

Well, I'm not a doctor, and you stated your case about your particular injury, but to the layman, a partially torn knee ligament sounds like further injury, surgery, and rehab could be one play away.

But, you're right, he should play, because he's likely no better off in the playoffs then he is right now should he continue to sit out. He's just playing with a higher risk factor than everyone else, and won't be at 100% of his potential.

Fine with me.

if he doesnt get surgery now....he defintley wont get it during the playoffs, why not play? that particular injury doesnt heal on its own...so he'll be no better or worse during that span. Also....expecially if its only "partial" tear...hes more than fine....besides...in the nfl.....EVERYONE is one play away from surgery or rehab bro.....hes just slightly weaker in one part of his body....but im telling you, elway played most of his career with a fully torn pcl and if i remember correctly daren sharper has been playing with one for awhile also....its not a devestating injury..

[Gscottnc5]

just an fyi. Im sure most of you know what it is.

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9339/25965.html

Posterior Cruciate Ligament (PCL) InjuriesWhat Is It?

What Is It?

The posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) and the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) are two tough bands of fibrous tissue that connect the thighbone (femur) and the large bone of the lower leg (tibia) at the knee joint. Together, the ACL and PCL bridge the inside of the knee joint, forming an "X" pattern that stabilizes the knee against front-to-back and back-to-front forces. In particular, the PCL prevents the lower leg from slipping too far back in relation to the upper leg, especially when the knee is flexed (bent).

A PCL injury is a sprain (stretch or tear of a ligament). The PCL most often is sprained when the front of the knee hits the dashboard during an automobile accident. During sports activities, the PCL also can tear when an athlete falls forward and lands hard on a bent knee, which is common in football, basketball, soccer and especially rugby.

Like other types of sprains, PCL injuries are classified according to a traditional grading system.

Grade I � A mild injury causes only microscopic tears in the ligament. Although these tiny tears can stretch the PCL out of shape, they do not significantly affect the knee's ability to support your weight.

Grade II (moderate) � The PCL is partially torn, and the knee is somewhat unstable, meaning it gives out periodically when you stand, walk or have diagnostic tests.

Grade III (severe) � The PCL is either completely torn or is separated at its end from the bone that it normally anchors, and the knee is more unstable. Because it usually takes a large amount of force to cause a severe PCL injury, patients with Grade III PCL sprains often also have sprains of the ACL or collateral ligaments or other significant knee injuries.

Overall, some degree of PCL damage occurs in up to 37% of all people who are treated for knee injuries in U.S. emergency rooms. Athletes seem to have more PCL injuries than any other group, with football players and rugby players having the most, and basketball players close behind. Because a mild PCL sprain at first may not cause pain or movement problems in the injured knee, many athletes finish a game after their injury. Some have such mild symptoms that they never seek medical care, and the torn PCL is discovered only when they have diagnostic tests for some other type of knee injury.

Symptoms

Symptoms of a PCL injury may include:

Mild knee swelling, with or without the knee giving out when you walk or stand, and with or without limitation of motion

Mild pain at the back of the knee that feels worse when you kneel

Pain in the front of the knee when you run or try to slow down � This symptom may begin one to two weeks after the injury or even later.

Because the first symptoms of a PCL tear may not interfere significantly with an athlete's ability to play sports, many athletes with PCL injuries wait several weeks before they see a doctor. At that first office visit, the athlete may describe vague or nonspecific symptoms � for example, that the injured knee simply doesn't feel "the way it should."

Diagnosis

Your doctor will ask you to describe exactly how you hurt your knee. He or she will want to know whether you had a recent serious impact to the front of your knee, the type of impact (fall, automobile collision), the position of your knee at the time of injury (flexed, extended, twisted) and what symptoms you are having now.

The doctor will examine both of your knees, comparing your injured knee with your uninjured one. During this exam, the doctor will check your injured knee for swelling, deformity, tenderness, fluid inside the knee joint and discoloration. After determining your knee's range of motion (how far it can move in all directions), the doctor will pull against the ligaments to check their strength. You will be asked to bend your knee while the doctor gently pushes forward on your lower leg where it meets the knee. If your PCL is torn, your lower leg can be moved backward in relation to the knee. The more your lower leg can be move away from its normal position, the greater the amount of PCL damage and the more unstable your knee.

If your physical examination suggests you have a PCL injury, you will need special diagnostic tests. These may include standard knee X-rays to check whether the PCL has separated from bone and for other bone damage, a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan or camera-guided knee surgery (arthroscopy).

Expected Duration

How long a PCL injury lasts depends on the severity of your injury, your rehabilitation program and the types of sports you play. In most cases, full recovery takes 4 to 12 months.