Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

If anyone played worse than Jake....it would have to be


Peppers90 NC

Recommended Posts

the offensive line.

Very little to no push on running plays, penalties, and terrible pass protection. Could not pick up on the blitzes, I didn't think any one of the sacks were a coverage sack. Jake played horrible, but the o-line did nothing to help him, D-Will or Stewart out. Even out only TD was bad blocking turned good run. We couldnt even punch it in at the end of the game.

On another note, defensively, it appears on defense we are having more trouble with off tackle runs more than runs directly up the middle.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not saying they played well, because they didn't. But on many occasions, you can't blame them. Blame Jeff Davidson. He did nothing to account for the continuous blitz. Pretty damn sad for a guy that was an O-line coach for years before coming to the Panthers and becoming coordinator.

You better believe that Atlanta is going to bring the pressure early on Sunday.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not saying they played well, because they didn't. But on many occasions, you can't blame them. Blame Jeff Davidson. He did nothing to account for the continuous blitz. Pretty damn sad for a guy that was an O-line coach for years before coming to the Panthers and becoming coordinator.

You better believe that Atlanta is going to bring the pressure early on Sunday.

This.

Though I think they played about as well as could be expected... perhaps somewhat disappointing and not up to par but I do not think that the OL was so terrible that they would've lost us the game if not for other significant factors.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

#1 rule for managing a game: Protect the Ball.

He eyes down Smith when he's in trouble. That's worked in the past, but now teams are sending zone blitzes with a lot of the zone clouds in smith's area. Easy INT = Easy INT. A lot of his throws were just plain old bad decisions. There was no quick passing game either. Everytime he took a sack it was a 10 yard loss. Who the fug takes a 5-7 step drop against one of the most notorious blitzing teams in the NFL. And again, he went into Panic Mode way too early and tried to score 2 touchdowns on one play. This was ALL in the first half. If you think the Offensive Line is to blame now, then think again, it's just his intangibles no longer having an effect over his low potent measurables.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sadly true. The offensive line was terrible. No answers for the Eagles blitzes at all :(

But, who could have foreseen this? Eagles creating pressure with the blitz.. how is this not in any game film between 1999-2009? Surely this must be some new strategy they are employing here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This.

Though I think they played about as well as could be expected... perhaps somewhat disappointing and not up to par but I do not think that the OL was so terrible that they would've lost us the game if not for other significant factors.

They played pretty freakn terrible. I could spin it like this, Jake would not have lost the game for us had our defense caused 7 turnovers and scored on them. Jake made bad passes, in fact two of his ints there was not as much pressure, but throughout the game, our O-Line was garbage. Jake played worst, but if he had a challenger for that title, I would give it to the line.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

#1 rule for managing a game: Protect the Ball.

He eyes down Smith when he's in trouble. That's worked in the past, but now teams are sending zone blitzes with a lot of the zone clouds in smith's area. Easy INT = Easy INT. A lot of his throws were just plain old bad decisions. There was no quick passing game either. Everytime he took a sack it was a 10 yard loss. Who the f**k takes a 5-7 step drop against one of the most notorious blitzing teams in the NFL. And again, he went into Panic Mode way too early and tried to score 2 touchdowns on one play. This was ALL in the first half. If you think the Offensive Line is to blame now, then think again, it's just his intangibles no longer having an effect over his low potent measurables.

OK so whats your explanation for the run game, or lack thereof? Oh, this thread was not created to defend Jake either, just point out another aspect of patheticness.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

But, who could have foreseen this? Eagles creating pressure with the blitz.. how is this not in any game film between 1999-2009? Surely this must be some new strategy they are employing here.

Yes and no.

Jim Johnson's MO and blitz packages are well known and well scouted.

Sean McDermott went more aggressive than I've even seen Johnson go. Johnson had certain situations he preferred to blitz in. McDermott? Anytime, anywhere.

That approach could get him in trouble down the road, but it worked yesterday.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

after that 1st drive the eagles knew what we were going to do.....when we ran they had 9 in the box and passing downs they sent at most 9 people. ol did not have a stellar game but they didnt suck the place up.6 people can't block 8 or 9 defenders blitzing.when our qbs had the time, they threw horrible passes. so no one played worse than jd.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes and no.

Jim Johnson's MO and blitz packages are well known and well scouted.

Sean McDermott went more aggressive than I've even seen Johnson go. Johnson had certain situations he preferred to blitz in. McDermott? Anytime, anywhere.

That approach could get him in trouble down the road, but it worked yesterday.

people knew there would be similarities but what wasn't known is if he would be more aggressive with the blitz or less.

makes sense that a young guy trying to make a statement that he is the man now would do that against a team that is supposed to have one of the best Olines and best offenses in the league.

imo, they need to go bring in an assistant DC/consultant who has a lot of experience in a 3-4 or at least a blitz happy team to help the Oline's preparation.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Oh he would absolutely flourish. It’s the panthers way. It’s no different with coaches. Sometimes they reach their expiration date, go somewhere else, and find new success.  Similarly to Burns, how long to wait for the light to finally turn on?  Market forces will demand a salary that the panthers can not responsibly match. Sliding him to guard will fit his skill set better, but he has played LT for 3 years. He will receive offers from other teams wanting to pay him LT money.  At guard, he won’t start with what they have paid Hunt and Lewis. Center then?? Dunno. Maybe? He will become a backup by default once they draft their stud LT. I doubt Dan just stands pat. That’s not his MO.  So where does this put him? Can you match what other teams will offer for a backup LT/guard? Do you dish out franchise LT $ on a guy who still needs significant improvement in pass protection. This team will be DOA in the playoffs with the very first team who has a formidable speed rusher. What if he has hit his ceiling in pass protection already and they sign him long term? It’s a big gamble either way. 
    • We're in a great position to see just how big of a misstep it would be, having made so many ourselves
    • I didn't say I would have done it. I was just saying that I can see why some in the FO considered it. Everything was done to give Bryce weapons. Solidify the interior line thru FA. Get XL at WR in round 1 and then get the most talented RB in round 2. Take a TE in round 4, etc They were probably "assuming" he'd make a complete recovery during the 2024 season. I'm a skeptical person. I wouldn't have assumed he'd be ok in 2024. I personally would have taken another position in the 2nd for that very reason. But, if I were "influenced" to take him I would've argued to keep him off the field, especially seeing how things were going for us record wise. Conventional Wisdom says most backs don't get back to normal until two years after the ACL surgery. He was injured in Fall 2023. Having him suit up in 2025 would have been almost 2 years since the original injury. You have him for 3 year on low contract. If he balls out, you resign him for a couple of more years b/c he'd only have 3 years of tread on the tires. If he's ok but not great you let him walk. 
×
×
  • Create New...