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Johnson and Hardy

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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OneBadCat Grand Master

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28 minutes ago, hepcat said:

What are the odds Hardy pulls a "Ted Ginn" and comes back on a cheap deal after sucking it up on his new team?  0%?  -482%??

That would be crazy. Hardy with Ealy coming into his own with Delaire, Addison. Hopefully CJ will be here. Would be nuts if Allen resigned too.

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37 minutes ago, Toolbox said:

I hope hardy's situation serves as a great lesson to all the fellas in the NFL.. stay away from the crazy ass chicks!

The world will continue to have crazy ass chicks just as much as crazy ass dudes. It all really comes down to how the individual handles the situation.

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40 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Who knows what would have happened if he had stayed here and that mess hadn't happened. Can't look at a player in a vacuum. Hardy was trending up and was/is young. A year away from football wasn't good for his development.

 

im not a hardy homer, kind of a dismissive way to brush aside a reasonable response I had. 

What? I never said you were, and I don't believe I was being dismissive. I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was referring to the posters on this board who literally think Hardy did nothing wrong. 

Exactly who knows what would have happened? Knowing Hardy he would have made some other poor choice off the field by this point.

My original post was that Hardy rarely showed up against good teams- we are a good team. Thus I'm not surprised he didn't register a stat against us. You can say his presence was felt in terms of pressure and run support, but not registering a tackle against us doesn't really lend itself to that argument. 

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10 minutes ago, SOJA said:

What? I never said you were, and I don't believe I was being dismissive. I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was referring to the posters on this board who literally think Hardy did nothing wrong. 

Exactly who knows what would have happened? Knowing Hardy he would have made some other poor choice off the field by this point.

My original post was that Hardy rarely showed up against good teams- we are a good team. Thus I'm not surprised he didn't register a stat against us. You can say his presence was felt in terms of pressure and run support, but not registering a tackle against us doesn't really lend itself to that argument. 

I gotcha. And what I meant was if he had still been on the field, in Carolina, who knows what his growth as a football player would be. He was trending up. Then he got a year vacation. You can't just look at one game, against us, and say see? That's looking at things in a vacuum. That was the point I was trying to make.

Greg did a lot of stuff that not only registered in pressures, sack numbers, setting the edge but he allowed our linebackers to play better. And he did this against really good teams. 49ers, New England, Seattle. He played hard until the final whistle and gave us a nasty identity on the d line. I think calling him overrated or trying to compare him to Luke or jj is unfair. It is what it is. Hardy will never be back nor should he be. 

This will be the last time I mention him this season, too much good poo going on right now. Feels like those pics Jeremy posted closed the book on everything. Great closure.

 

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There is no doubt that the loss of Hardy was more damaging mentally than it was physically. The defensive leaders of this team took a hit physiologically, and it's obvious in the photos that they still have a strong bond..

We would have had a 10-6 record or better last year if we had Greg Hardy.

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