Unheralded Architect of the Carolina Panthers

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

No one can doubt that Hurney eventually painted himself into a corner when it came to the cap. We can all agree, however, that he did pick a great shade of paint to do it with.

 

Not even that. 

Hurney capped himself extending trash like James Anderson, Jake delhomme, and Charles Godfrey. 

Not exactly the best hills to die on. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Marty was no fool, in fact he was an evil genius!

His years of patient, below the radar, mediocre management, ultimately resulted in our chance to draft Cam and Luke.

Had he been good at his job we would have never been in a position to draft these two key players.

Here is to Marty's incompetence.

[WOW!!]

3 hours ago, Clicheking said:

Thank you for the first rnd picks and that's it, he couldn't do anything right outside of that. Horrible contracts, hanging on to washed up players, missed on almost everything outside of the 1st rnd, trading future picks, I could keep going. Couldn't be happier we got a real gm.

Jerry needs to take some of the blame..

[frash.exe]

Honestly I never thought of Hurney as a football guru, I thought he was closer to a guy that threw poo against the wall and hope it stuck. You can just tell the way he used to answer questions vs. how Gettleman answers questions about personnel. Yes, he drafted Cam and Luke in round one. He also traded a first round pick for Everette Brown, and traded a second round pick to the Patriots for Armanti Edwards. He also gave up a lot to draft Jeff Otah who ended up being one of the softest players to suit up for the Panthers. He seriously considered giving up what would be the pick that got us Cam Newton to draft Jimmy Clausen's horrible ass. His dumb master plan to have two first round picks at running back that would have 1500 yards a piece and be a perennial contender never panned out. He drafted guys like Corvey Irvin in the third round. He would push mediocre players out on the field that would get outclassed constantly and people on this forum would talk about how he was a great draft builder because his picks were starting. Hurney had his moments of zen but he made too many mistakes, too many blunders to be successful in a hyper competitive league such as the NFL. I couldn't be happier that we got an actual GM that knows what a good football player is in Dave Gettleman. That's why guys like Short, Coleman, Benwikere, Ealy are starting now instead of guys like Richard Marshall, Charles Godfrey, Maake Kemoeatu and Tyler Brayton.

 

in short, he's not really an architect of anything. He's more like an unlicensed contractor that neglected a lot of important stuff like putting support beams in the necessary spots so that the first floor ceiling doesn't sag and got shitcanned for someone with real credentials 30% of the way through and way behind schedule.

[Khyber53]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Not even that. 

Hurney capped himself extending trash like James Anderson, Jake delhomme, and Charles Godfrey. 

Not exactly the best hills to die on. 

I wouldn't call any of those guys trash, each did really well for a season or two, and one was great but let down by an injury in the end. I can't defend Anderson's and Godfrey's extensions at length, but both were retained based on the prior year's performance and some optimistic expectations. Both were also in positions where there was no clear cut follow on guys. Hurney didn't have Gettleman's talent for finding gems in the dustbin.

Delhomme's contract was greatly impacted by the fact that he had put off some of the pay raises he should have gotten early on for later. As he stayed, that big contract was looming, looming and then boom. The year that Jake was injured and had to have the surgery, he was playing as well as any QB in the league. At the time, he was earning it. After the surgery, he came back and did what he could and dragged us to the playoffs. Sadly, on his birthday, it all fell apart and he was never able to play again with any chance of being serviceable. The contract was already set in stone. One man benefited from it, a team suffered from it. Had they paid Delhomme better before, rather than leveraging his contracts against Peppers and others, his agent wouldn't have pushed so hard to make sure of the big guaranteed monies. They'd robbed Peter to pay Paul for too long and that's how we paid Delhomme millions to go keep the bench warm in Cleveland.

We rarely choose the hills we die on, at least consciously, but die we do. Every manager either eventually falls to the cap monster or falls to creating a losing franchise. Marty's hill just happened to be at the intersection of the two. There sure were some glorious moments along the way, though.