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Not sure what to think about this...re:Davis, Hardy


stankowalski

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13 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

You are kidding, right?

 

I agree with him to an extent. I'm not claiming they are proof that Hardy's story is truth like the other poster seems to have said but those pictures (at different light exposures like deadspin talked about) really don't shed much on the whole situation. Maybe it's better said that they don't contradict Hardy's story. 

 

note: I'm not going to get pulled into a long conversation on this , i'm focused on football not this crap

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I can not believe her word when you know her character.

I can not believe his word, because he has shown poor judgement.

I can not believe the presses word because they are in it for the money/ratings.

I can not believe the public view because they are a mindless herd that ebbs and flows with emotion and irrational judgement.

So, who can I believe? I can believe those who had something to gain and took a loss on this, or those who had nothing to gain and just did their job,

So, I choose to believe the police. They saw no reason to believe her coked, drunk, and crazy self when they ran after her in the streets of Charlotte. They did not see any reasonable proof of battery after hearing both sides of the story.

I believe the forensic medical examiner who found no evidence of physical abuse on Hardy's part. These people are trained to evaluate bruises and match them to the person/implement used and the amount of force used during the incident. They found that she fell and was restrained forcefully. That the bruising on her hands and feet are signs of her attacking another person. That her cuts were from minor contact with broken glass. Nothing to corroborate her testimony of being hurled onto a bed of rifles, dragged across the floor, choked by a man with large hands, or thrown in a bath tub with more force than her own body weight.

I believe the magistrate who decided that this did not fall under a felony due to battery and the arrest was allowed under misdemeanor charges.

I believe a district court judge who gave Hardy probation and counseling as a punishment. (Rarely if ever do they rule not guilty unless the defense has absolute proof. The judge simply goes with the lesser penalty and reduces the charges.)

I believe the DA and his team. They had every reason to prosecute for personal gain and wanted to from the start. They had to drop it since the evidence failed to corroborate her story and they began to question Holder's side more than Hardy's. They can and usually do prosecute these cases without the victim as long as they have physical/photo proof that is supported by experts and corroborates the victims testimony and the witness testimony.

I believe the Superior Court judge who always discusses this with the DA and warned the DA of what was to come with the holes in the evidence/story of Holder and her reluctance to work with the courts.

I believe Nicole Holder's attorney who refused to continue working for her and got dismissed by the judge so he could wash his hands of her.

So, that tells me that you have two very troubled individuals who need to get their act together. I can conclude that both Holder and Hardy lied, and Holder's lies were much greater than Hardy's. I can conclude that those who were in contact with the events chose not to elevate/pursue this case even though they had a significant gain if they were able to pursue this event.

Some of you are blinded by the herd mentality and fail to see the key piece of evidence that favors Hardy because you believe the evidence is "gruesome". The photo evidence actually supports Hardy's side and not Holder's. Look closely. Look for what not is present that should be, and look at what is present/what it matches.

Hardy is innocent by rule of law/procedure. The courts even expunged the record (and that is not easy to get if there is reason to prosecute). He is guilty in the eyes of the press/public because they love a good irrational/emotional event that enables them to carry out their agenda or find justice in a story/straw man that gives purpose to the hurt they have experienced in their personal lives.

If you care so much about justice, then pursue the Holder side. Look into her story/character, and if you still believe this is worthy of being prosecuted, then convince/support her in taking a stand as this is still within the statutes of limitations. Last I knew she was in Wilmington. Go ahead. Reach out and see how she treats you.

Now can we move on? Please!

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1 hour ago, MadHatter said:

You are kidding, right?

 

Are you a forensic medical examiner? Are you trained in identifying and matching bruise patterns?

I doubt it. Until then I will believe in the report by the forensic medical examiner in this case, and that report refutes Holder's testimony.

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11 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

I can not believe her word when you know her character.

I can not believe his word, because he has shown poor judgement.

I can not believe the presses word because they are in it for the money/ratings.

I can not believe the public view because they are a mindless herd that ebbs and flows with emotion and irrational judgement.

So, who can I believe? I can believe those who had something to gain and took a loss on this, or those who had nothing to gain and just did their job,

So, I choose to believe the police. They saw no reason to believe her coked, drunk, and crazy self when they ran after her in the streets of Charlotte. They did not see any reasonable proof of battery after hearing both sides of the story.

 

I hate when people quote giant long posts, forcing you to scroll again through something you've already read so I'll just quote the gist and say BRAV fuging O sir.  Brav fuging o.

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I don't understand how the pictures prove guilt...........from reading what allegedly happen,most the bruises would occur IF it went down that way, TD said the right thing it's ultimately his word vs her's.......I don't understand why everyone is expected to blindly follow the majority on this situation.

I'm glad Jerry Jones gave Hardy another shot, but come tomorrow i don't want to hear hardy's name once 

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