Youngins at the games.

[PanthersATL]

26 minutes ago, Icege said:

>> we immediately remove him from any public environment when he fusses to not disrupt others, etc?
>> If we want to drive 3 hours only to have to leave by the 2nd half, that's our choice.

 

You make a valid point, about it being your choice to attend a game with your infant, only to have to leave the game whenever he fusses, or because you need to leave by the 2nd half.

 

Your choice could also be to leave the infant warm and cozy at home so you can fully enjoy the game / event instead of continually being distracted by paying attention to a child who isn't old enough to comprehend what's going on around him.

 

Think of it like buying an expensive Xmas present, when all the kid wants to do is play with the cardboard box it came in while the gift gathers dust in the closet. You bought the present because YOU thought the kid would want it - but if you had asked the kid they would have said "box, box, box".

 

There's nothing wrong with going out on a date night without an infant, whether that is hanging out a bar, a concert, a football game etc.

 

Obviously, do what you'd like - but sometimes the choice you make may not be the best of the available options.

 

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(disclaimer: not a parent, but have seen some episodes of Family Matters and the film Three Men and a Baby, which makes me qualified to offer an opinion to actual moms and dads)

[jackson113]

Try not to bring kids or wife to the games I went to, but that's just me.

[tiger7_88]

I don't have a single problem at all with parents bringing a child of any age to any event as long as they understand that the child is THEIR burden.

And by 'burden' I don't mean children are burdens in general, but they ARE burdens if they are of an age that they don't understand what is going on at the event and can easily get bored.

The "it takes a village" parents are assholes.  Your child is not MY responsibility.  If they are getting bored and squirmy, pick them up and take them to do something.  Concessions.  Just a short walk.  No, I don't give a flying crap if YOU miss the game... you're the one who brought her/him to the game, he/she (likely) didn't ask to come.  Now live up to your responsibilities.

Those parents that *do* understand their responsibilities along with their children are usually pleasures to meet and know.  

Those that aren't?  Those that expect that their rights to a 'good time' and to 'finally get out of the house' places the responsibility of entertaining their child on the crowd around them?  Yeah, you're just a bunch of assholes.

I didn't take my son to his first football game until he was 7 years old.  At that age, he had already started playing peewee football.  Even then (and this was prior to 9/11 so it was easier then to bring things into the stadium) I took some items and toys that he could entertain himself with if he got bored (and those items/toys did *not* have the ability to be bothersome to the crowd around us).

Just understand YOUR responsibilities as a parent and IMO everything is usually OK.

[Donald LaFell]

53 minutes ago, Icege said:

Pot. Kettle. Black.

So it sounds entitled to want to attend a game (which has been paid for) with our child but not have to deal with some manchild that can't hold down 2 Bud Lights? On the flip side, it doesn't sound entitled to not want a baby around so that you can go full retard?

FOH

I didn't even like dealing with the entitled drunks before the bebe. Now I'm going to be looked at sideways when we've got noise canceling headphones for him, we immediately remove him from any public environment when he fusses to not disrupt others, etc?

Seems really, really selfish to not want somebody to come support the team simply because they'd have to bring a baby. If we want to drive 3 hours only to have to leave by the 2nd half, that's our choice.

But to imply entitlement or a lack of courtesy solely on the part of the parents is asinine. I get there are plenty of horrible parents that would probably change their kid right their in the seats (ew ew ew), but I just can't grasp how this is anywhere remotely like bringing kids to a bar when at a bar you're not getting in the door under 21 unless you've got yourself a fake id.

No reason for so much hyperbole. Nothing wrong with bringing your baby to a game, especially if you try to be considerate. 

It just seems like you want everyone to to be empathetic to your situation but you're not providing any back. No reason to call someone names or assume their a drunkard because they don't want to be around a baby. On top of that it's hard enough going to a game without a baby. 

 

 

[Cold Cat]

This has been brought up a few times before. 

My daughter will turn 3 in March.  In her short 3 years she's attened:

Panthers v. Bills

Panthers v. Patriots

Braves v. Jays

Red Sox v. Jays x3

Argos v. Ticats

And countless local street concerts.  As a parent I belive you do not change what you do.  That you change how you do what you want to do when including your kids.

You have to know the environment that you are introducing your child(ren).  

Was my daughter ever bored at the games yes.  What did we do. My wife would take her for walks on the concourses or shopping or for a snack.

In our seats she (my daughter) takes the seat between my wife and I.  If you ask me I'd prefer to be next to a child all day than some belligerent fan hiding a sign blocking multiple views.  

I find it deplorable, yet not shocking on some of the huddlers takes on this.  

I will continue to take my child to sporting events and other means of entertainment.  By no means do I want you to take care of my child.  You shouldn't ask how my child will ruin your game experience.  Maybe you should be grateful that some of us parents are razing another generation of fans.

I apologize as this was written in haste and hot headedness.  As I read some of the responses I felt as if I were being attacked for including my fandom with my child.

Sometimes making memories is just as important for the parent as it is the child.

 

[PhillyB]

on defense i like to stand up, make lots of noise, and use my foot to hammer the seat behind me and make lots more noise and jump up and down all over other panthers fans when we score.

if i had an infant sitting next to me i would be beyond fuging pissed and i wouldn't do any of those things.

[Montsta]

13 minutes ago, Cold Cat said:

This has been brought up a few times before. 

My daughter will turn 3 in March.  In her short 3 years she's attened:

Panthers v. Bills

Panthers v. Patriots

Braves v. Jays

Red Sox v. Jays x3

Argos v. Ticats

And countless local street concerts.  As a parent I belive you do not change what you do.  That you change how you do what you want to do when including your kids.

You have to know the environment that you are introducing your child(ren).  

Was my daughter ever bored at the games yes.  What did we do. My wife would take her for walks on the concourses or shopping or for a snack.

In our seats she (my daughter) takes the seat between my wife and I.  If you ask me I'd prefer to be next to a child all day than some belligerent fan hiding a sign blocking multiple views.  

I find it deplorable, yet not shocking on some of the huddlers takes on this.  

I will continue to take my child to sporting events and other means of entertainment.  By no means do I want you to take care of my child.  You shouldn't ask how my child will ruin your game experience.  Maybe you should be grateful that some of us parents are razing another generation of fans.

I apologize as this was written in haste and hot headedness.  As I read some of the responses I felt as if I were being attacked for including my fandom with my child.

Sometimes making memories is just as important for the parent as it is the child.

 

I have a kid that I've taken to countless sporting events since she was little. I understand various peoples opinions on the matter and respect that everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

But to me your post is exactly what a lot of people are trying to avoid. Parents that take everything around them as a personal attack on them or their children and then get outraged by deplorable behavior. 

Sounds a lot to me like the lady at the Titans game with a stick up her ass, but that's just my opinion.

But what do I know because I think anyone with a "baby on board" sticker on the back of their van is a huge douchebag for thinking that's going to somehow alter the way I drive around their car full of precious cargo.

I'm an asshole. 

[AviationMX]

I really thought this was about Funchess starting...

nevermind and don't bring a kid unless they would remember the experience

 

[PanthersATL]

32 minutes ago, Cold Cat said:

You have to know the environment that you are introducing your child(ren).  

This.

[Davidson Deac II]

I took my son to a Braves Dodgers game when he was about a year old.  He was quiet and well behaved for the most part, but when he did get a little cranky in the 7th inning, we took for a walk around the stadium.  Wasn't a big deal, and the folks around us didn't seem to mind. 

It generally doesn't bother me if people bring little ones.  I have attended several games with kids next to me, and they never bothered me.  On the other hand, I have had seats near some adult idiots and I had to eventually move. Sitting next to kids is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than sitting next to some loud mouth drunk.  But if the kid cries or misbehaves, the parents need to deal with it even if it means they miss the game themselves. 

 

[Inimicus]

My previous comment notwithstanding I don't object to folks bringing kids (and by kids I mean something that can walk and talk and sit in a seat by themselves) to games.  As long as they are attentive parents and cognizant of their responsibilities to the kids and the adults around them Ive got no beef with it.

 

But when you're talking about a newborn, one that was still cooking during the first game of the season...

Thats just selfish on the part of the parents.  Selfish is the only way to describe someone willing to risk their baby getting sick so they can go to a freaking football game.

No infant needs to be exposed to December weather in Charlotte for 4 hours in a crowd of 70k NFL fans.

 

[weyco2000]

Some of you guys bitch about the fan base or lack there of, yet you don't want future fans exposed to the excitement of attending a game... what next kids barred from church? Lord knows, someone may be offended if they make a noise. 

[weyco2000]

2 hours ago, Montsta said:

I have a kid that I've taken to countless sporting events since she was little. I understand various peoples opinions on the matter and respect that everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

But to me your post is exactly what a lot of people are trying to avoid. Parents that take everything around them as a personal attack on them or their children and then get outraged by deplorable behavior. 

Sounds a lot to me like the lady at the Titans game with a stick up her ass, but that's just my opinion.

But what do I know because I think anyone with a "baby on board" sticker on the back of their van is a huge douchebag for thinking that's going to somehow alter the way I drive around their car full of precious cargo.

I'm an asshole. 

Great post! You treat your kids like human beings by exposing them to real world experiences. 

[cookinbrak]

Do they charge full price for tickets for little kids? Honest question, I have no idea.