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Is star regressing or are injuries to blame?

micnificent28

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2 hours ago, Marguide said:

I agree with pretty much all of this. My point was directed more at the frequent claim on here that KK's success is because Star is pulling double teams, thus freeing up Kwann. And that's just not accurate.

I was agreeing with you which may not have been clear.

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40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Star's role is more so about helping Luke and the DEs than Short.

But that said, the characterization of him being the one who does the 'dirty work' while others net the stats is correct.

I don't really see him as having regressed this year, and I believe the team well understands the value of what he does.

He was pretty bad in the first quarter of the season, but given the fact that he is back to what we've come to expect of him these past 3-4 games I'm writing that off due to his injury recovery in the offseason and the preseason.

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I'm still hoping to keep both.

It reminds me of back when the Bucs had Warren Sapp and Anthony McFarland at full strength. Sapp was the one everybody knew about, but McFarland was arguably just as important to what they did on defense even though you didn't hear his name called as frequently.

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6 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

I'll be completely honest, if it came down to keeping Star or Short, I'm backing KK. Love has done a great job and he'll come cheap. Short has established himself as an elite pass rushing DT (an Aaron Donald, Geno Atkins, Gerald McCoy, etc). Those don't exactly grow on trees.

Star's injuries definitely play a factor in this decision as well.

Given a choice, I'm taking KK too, but I hope and think we keep both.

While Love has done a decent job in rotation, we seem to give up more yards on the ground when he is in the game.

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3 hours ago, stirs said:

Everyone seems to have the same "read it on a website" opinion about Star.

Watch film

Is he constantly double teamed?  Is he the famed "space eater"?

Should he get a big contract or should we draft another big guy?  Or offer him something moderate.

THIS.

 

Only way to truly discern what he's doing is to watch film. Hard to say for sure without it.

 

I'd go out on a limb and say 95% of the posters in this thread haven't.

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