Miami Hurricanes Interested in Shula

[X-Clown on 1]

#girlbye

[EightyNine]

19 minutes ago, Panthers4real said:

Bye Felicia... Shula has definitely improved but I really think our offense is successful despite some of his play calls.  How many times do we see Cam calling audibles at LOS.

Let me try to explain in a way that will maybe stop some people from believing in this ridiculous logic..

You know how in Madden, you only have a handful of plays that you can audible to out of each formation?  Well its kind of the same in real life.  Shula gives Cam a list of plays that he can audible to out of any given personnel group.  You know all those meetings they have during the week?  Shula and Cam go over which plays to audible to based off of what he is seeing from the defense.   It ALL comes from Shula.   ALL OF IT.  When Cam calls an audible, its because the coaches taught Cam how to read the defense and which plays match up the best against that defense.

[Panthers4real]

7 minutes ago, EightyNine said:

Probably around the same number of times as all the other great offenses in the NFL.

Agreed. But look at the success of our no huddle offense 

[Snake]

Shula is not as bad as some make him out to be but he didn't just become great this year either. Cam and Shula work well together. With that said we would be able to replace Shula easily. He has not built anything spectacular he was just better that Chud. 

[Panthers4real]

2 minutes ago, EightyNine said:

Let me try to explain in a way that will maybe stop some people from believing in this ridiculous logic..

You know how in Madden, you only have a handful of plays that you can audible to out of each formation?  Well its kind of the same in real life.  Shula gives Cam a list of plays that he can audible to out of any given personnel group.  You know all those meetings they have during the week?  Shula and Cam go over which plays to audible to based off of what he is seeing from the defense.   It ALL comes from Shula.   ALL OF IT.  When Cam calls an audible, its because the coaches taught Cam how to read the defense and which plays match up the best against that defense.

I'm not completely discrediting Shula's hand in our offense.  I just feel he makes some real scratch-your-head play calls and I wonder if those would be more common place if it wasn't for Cam audibling out of them.  For example throwing a 10+ yard pass on 3rd and 3 or 4.   

[fieryprophet]

If Shula left our biggest issue is going to be finding someone who will come in and adapt to our offense as currently constructed while continuing to trust Cam's decision making, and only influencing in other directions based on our personnel and not on a pre-conceived idea of how our offense should look.

That is not anywhere near as easy to find as people are imagining it to be.

[Moorgan]

I'm in the minority but I don't want Shula to leave. I think we've finally got things going well and it's partially because of Shula. Personally I hope he's happy right where he's at...winning in Carolina with Cam.

But I do desperately want my hurricanes to right the ship...just not at the expense of my pro team.

[PizzaTheHutt]

I've got a feeling we will complain no matter who is calling the plays. The OC is just too easy of a target. 

However I will not miss the long bomb attempts on 3rd and 1. 

[MadHatter]

1 minute ago, Panthers4real said:

Agreed. But look at the success of our no huddle offense 

Most teams are successful in the no huddle offense....because it provides more favorable matchups as it prohibits the defenses ability to substitute.  They get stuck in certain personnel groupings. 

Amazing how many people just do not understand "why" no huddles offenses are successful.

[EightyNine]

1 minute ago, Panthers4real said:

I'm not completely discrediting Shula's hand in our offense.  I just feel he makes some real scratch-your-head play calls and I wonder if those would be more common place if it wasn't for Cam audibling out of them.  For example throwing a 10+ yard pass on 3rd and 3 or 4.   

When you say that our offense is successful despite Shula, you most certainly are completely discrediting Shula's hand in the offense.

As far as the head scratching plays..no one is perfect and there isn't another fan base or team that believes that every call the OC makes is great.  Its just like they say..when it works, you're a genius, and when it doesn't, you're a moron.

Winning really does mask EVERYTHING.. Think about all of the close games we've lost in the past.. It came down to a handful of plays..Those are the plays that we are making this year.  The difference is so small.  Look at our games this year.. they also came down to a handful of plays.  I can think of just a few plays that if we dont make them, our attitudes right now would be COMPLETELY different.

As for calling plays where Cam throws the ball 10+ yards in a 3rd and short..you HAVE to be able to do that.. If the entire defense is squatting on a 4 yard pass, its gonna be really hard to get a first down that way.  You HAVE  to be able to take what the defense gives and you HAVE to be UNPREDICTABLE at times.

[TheRumGone]

I don't want Shula to leave. 

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

I can imagine our OC position would be really attractive to FA coaches this offseason.  We have a franchise QB, solid O-line, probowl TE, horde of capable RBs and the return of Kelvin Benjamin would just leave you salivating.

[EightyNine]

2 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

I don't think it's because of Shula to be honest. I truly believe Mike is getting a lot of hype for finally going with Cam's strengths. ESPN, the other day, released an article detailing Cam's growth as a QB. On it, there was a small tidbit that resonated with me a lot. Simply stated, Cam has been audibling out of "bad" plays that have resulted in positive results. I mean, look at the Seattle game. 

So when Cam audibles out of a "bad" play..who do you think teaches Cam when to do that and what plays to audible to?  What do you think they discuss in their meetings during the week?  Does Shula tell Cam, "Once you've read the defense (which i know you are an expert at and i cant help you with that in any way) if you see I called a bad play, just go ahead and audible to any play that you think would work."..?

[JJman Returns]

Quite possible both Shula and McDermott are gone. Lots of teams could be looking for head coaches next season

Colts, Browns, Jaguars, Texans, Titans (depends how MM does), Dolphins (depends how DC does), Chargers, Cowboys, Lions, Saints and 49ers could all have vacancies next season. Not to mention the Lions are reportedly interested in Hurney as their new GM and he could want his next head coach to be someone he previously hired (Shula or McD). 

One of the downsides to being a great a team with a great head coach is you often lose your coordinators to other teams