Kurt Warner speaks the truth on the subject of this year's MVP

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

4 hours ago, thomas96 said:

I truly believe the Patriots would still be 8-0 right now with Garapolo. Brady's good but Dion Lewis, Gronk and Edelman (before Lewis went down) are all all in the top 7 or 8 of YAC. Most of Brady's stats are them making plays in the open field, on plays designed to get them into the open space. Brady's been a total game manager this year. Of course he's been amazing throwing only 2 INT so far and 1 of them which was a Edelman drop turned into a pick 6 (sound familiar, Cam?) and the other I didn't see, but he hasn't even been playing at an MVP level considering how their offense is run. Garapolo has a similar skill set from what I've seen and could easily execute in that offense. Cam wouldn't since that's not his style which is completely fine. But he is literally carrying our offense. Stew has been solid and Olsen has been great but Cam is making Ted fuging Ginn look like a Pro Bowler. Without him DA could probably drum up 3-4 wins but they'd be against those lesser teams. No way we beat any of the last 4 teams we played without Cam. Same goes for Dalton as for Brady. Most QBs with that skill set could run that offense easily. Especially looking at those WRs, RBs, TE, and O-line. All elite. Cam should be the only MVP candidate right now. Maybe Carson Palmer. And if Romo were healthy he'd probably be in that discussion since you can clearly see how much he means to that sh*tty team.

You are asinine 

[cookinbrak]

Before the game Sunday, they were comparing Cam and Kaepernick. Same stats, blah blah blah, different records. Warner said that you can make stats say anything you want, Cam has so many intangibles that there's no comparison. "Don't ever compare those two".

[Jangler]

3 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I fuging hate fantasy football. It has ruined the sport and I want to punch everyone that constantly talks about their fantasy team

I played the first year I was online, with CBS. Hayden's Panties...anywho, I won and and didn't get my prize.fug fantasy football.

[JB82887]

I was surprised when I saw this on the NFL Network.  He is always the saltiest potato chip.

[gtanaka]

I mean, I definitely agree that Cam should be 2nd but Brady is just ridiculous right now.

Everyone talks about if we didn't have Cam we would be terrible, but really it all depends on who is here instead of Cam. Replace Cam with Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady and there is a very real possibility we're still undefeated. 

Cam is playing great but still has his lapses and will go cold and miss consecutive easy throws. Tom Brady is playing out of his mind and extremely rarely do you see him miss a throw. 

[gtanaka]

I agree stats don't tell the whole story. But when a player has 2700 yards 24 total touchdowns and only 2 interceptions midway through the season and his 8-0 its hard to argue against him. 

Be honest, if the situation was reversed, we had the Pats team and Cam had those stats while Brady had our team and Cam's stats, we would all be saying that  there is absolutely no question who the MVP is. I promise none of you would be saying, "Oh but looks at Brady's weapons." we would be crediting the defense for being able to keep them through all the turnovers.

[Thal]

The MVP award in the NFL  is a trophy to anoint the face of the league. They'll take turn giving it to rodgers, brady, peyton. Then once they realize people might notice a pattern they'll give it to someone who deserves it, like when Peterson won it. That's why they tried to anoint Luck to loop it through him. Now they realize he sucks so they must be in panic. 

[The Huddler]

Warner is a known hater and the next oportunity to throw cam under the bus, he will do it. 

[Diehardpanther02]

On November 12, 2015 at 12:53:54 PM, 15 said:

The MVP award is combination of stats/wins/popularity.

If the award had anything to do with the actual term "Most Valuable Player" it would go to Cam. The Patriots would easily be maybe 6-2/7-1 right now with Garapolo.

We would be talking about who we're taking in the top 5 of the draft.

Nah I don't think garapolo would be 6-2 and def not 7-1 the jets and buffalo both would have knocked of the pats with him at qb.  And probably one other game in the mix for sure.  Brady is almost as valuable for that team as cam seeing that he(garapolo) is much worse tha DA.  But that's neither here nor there.. Not to mention with no relevance to MVP talk the Patriots would be nothing had Brady not came around, though you can say the same for Carolina. But on a brighter note, I could care less if he wins MVP I would much rather him get a ring.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Kurt "Billy Bob Thornton" Warner.

[TheNewStandard]

On November 12, 2015 at 12:53:54 PM, 15 said:

The MVP award is combination of stats/wins/popularity.

If the award had anything to do with the actual term "Most Valuable Player" it would go to Cam. The Patriots would easily be maybe 6-2/7-1 right now with Garapolo.

We would be talking about who we're taking in the top 5 of the draft.

See Rivera and Luke garnering the top accolades at their respective positions in 2013. 

The Panthers are popular and Cam is the best offensive player on our team with the best record in football. 

Heck, J-No and Rivera could make it a trifecta with Cam if our Cats can get homefield throughout.

no matter what the pundits say, Carolina is not a "small-market" team and 2013 proved that.

[Salisburysean98]

The problem with analysts now is they want to nitpick at completion percentage and all of that garbage, it means nothing if your receivers have been dropping the ball. Anybody with a brain and a working set of eyes can clearly see that Cam has evolved as a pocket passer in the NFL. Throw after throw, you really can't speak any justice on just how much better his deep ball has gotten. That's the kind of thing Cam struggled with early in his Career, all of the haters want to call him a "runner" and he needs to do what Qb's do and "throw" the ball. I'd really really, love to see anyone that isn't named Tom Brady try to run the Carolina Offense in Cam's shoes. I think they'd all struggle, except Tom Brady. With that being said do I think he will win it over Brady ? Of course not, Brady is not only having himself a hell of a season but the Media loves to slob on that knob of his. I really can't make an argument if Brady were a Panther, could he do as good as Cam is doing or better with the Wide outs he has around him currently? I think without question he could, the real question is could Peyton, Rodgers, or Brees do it if they were in Panther Uniforms and not Cam Newton? Nah. Lets not deviate from the reality here that the Carolina Offense is tailored to Cam Newtons abilities. So therefore it is quite different, much much different and this is not really an Elementary Argument here. It's more of a reality check for the haters, so while Cam's offense in Carolina is tailored to him as a runner or a passer, You cannot let ANYONE tell you Andy Dalton can do the same thing with the same set of Wide Receivers. That's a garbage argument on their parts, no he couldn't !

[KendrickPanther]

The award is what it is. No point in arguing the name of it. They could call it the Heismann then what we would we argue about? 32 teams have a most valuable player. Arguing the meaning of MVP just doesn't get anywhere.