Photo of the Greg Olsen "hold"

[Snake]

4 minutes ago, shaka said:

Look the refs were terrible.  The botched review, the clock stopping when tackled in bounds, the additional time added to the play clocks.  But let's face it...

 

The extended arm wrapped around the guy you're blocking will get a holding call more often than not.  You can't have an arm wrapped around the back of the defender you're blocking.  

 

The problem is that the colts did it multiple times and it wasn't called.  That's bullshit.  All I want is a consistent application of the rules.  

Technically that was clipping by the defense. His arm is extended to keep his balance. 

[TheRed]

24 minutes ago, Darth Biscuit said:

Have you got a pic of the guy punching Olsen in the face after that play?  Hmmm... wonder why there wasn't a flag for that?

 

7 minutes ago, PntherPryd said:

Murkn posted a link to the play in his Gif thread.  NFL blocked the first one but this link still works.  You can see the punch in the face, hear the "refs suck" chant.  His arm was above the other guy's elbow but was not wrapped.  That ref wanted to call holding before the play to call that one.

https://vid.me/12uE

I don't think you can get much more blatant with this. He threw a punch at Greg.

[shaka]

3 minutes ago, Snake said:

Technically that was clipping by the defense. His arm is extended to keep his balance. 

Respectfully disagree.  Around 43 seconds in the video posted the defender is square in the hole on Olsen.  Around 45-46 seconds you can see he gets turned.   

It was a hold, I'm not saying it should have been called, because you can technically call holding on every play,  but it was a hold.  More egregious is the blatant punch thrown that occurs a half a second after.  

 

[GhostP.]

That punch was the only thing I saw .. and It was so damn obvious and yet .. No flag for that .. Just glad none of these bad calls cost us the game cause it was getting out of hand.

[TheRed]

The holding call itself was close if I'm being honest.

But that punch that was clearly thrown should have been an unsportsmanlike conduct on the Colts, and possibly an ejection. Which would have basically nullified the hold because it would have been 15 yards, and a 1st down anyways. But I don't think the refs would have wanted that.

[Snake]

3 minutes ago, shaka said:

Respectfully disagree.  Around 43 seconds in the video posted the defender is square in the hole on Olsen.  Around 45-46 seconds you can see he gets turned.   

It was a hold, I'm not saying it should have been called, because you can technically call holding on every play,  but it was a hold.  More egregious is the blatant punch thrown that occurs a half a second after.  

 

What you don't see in that picture is a guy under Olsen. It's a weird play where 74 is blocking a guy that is taking Olsen legs out unintentionally. 

[Cyberjag]

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[Bartin]

Photo makes it look like much more of a hold than the video.

[Raskle]

Maybe someone with better eyes than mine can double check me, but I'm still failing to see how Harper's coverage on their TD attempt was DPI. I went back and looked, and I saw his arm curl to the WRs back, but what I didn't see was him actually making contact with the left arm. His right arm was extended with his head towards the ball, which is perfectly legal.

 

How did we "get away" with DPI when there was no actual contact?

[KJ89]

Got to keep those nationally televised primetime games close. Can't lose those viewers. 

[pantherclaw]

37 minutes ago, Raskle said:

Maybe someone with better eyes than mine can double check me, but I'm still failing to see how Harper's coverage on their TD attempt was DPI. I went back and looked, and I saw his arm curl to the WRs back, but what I didn't see was him actually making contact with the left arm. His right arm was extended with his head towards the ball, which is perfectly legal.

 

How did we "get away" with DPI when there was no actual contact?

That's what I saw, sir.

[Zaximus]

1 hour ago, RRC2 said:

It doesn't make sense to punch a guy in the helmet. Should check the puncher for brain damage.

Anyway, this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but.....

 

While I think the referees were bad, and while I think we were the victim of most of the bad calls, I don't think the referees had it out for us. I don't think they cared, truthfully. It just so happened that most bad calls happened to go against us. We still got away with at least two blatant penalties.

 

The first: early in the game, Roman Harper had an obvious DPI near the end zone that went uncalled. Later, Greg Olsen with an obvious hold on a different Cam run that went uncalled as well.

 

Bad, but not to the level of a conspiracy

What?  It's obvious they were handed calls.

I mean the ball hit the ground on that pass and they even reviewed it.  Unless they have Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder in the booth reviewing that play, they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

[Zaximus]

2 minutes ago, RRC2 said:

I think that was a bad call, but I can see how they came to the conclusion they did. It was called a catch on the field and it's allowed to hit the ground so long as hitting the ground doesn't help the receiver catch it.  I thought hitting the ground absolutely helped him catch it, but I can see how they think there was nothing conclusive on the replay to back it up.

The notion that Whalen got out of bounds on a play a few snaps later was ridiculous, though.

There was absolutely CLEAR evidence the ball hit the ground without his hand under it.   No question.  

[Panthro]

2 hours ago, jasonluckydog said:

It was blatantly obvious that the refs NFL wanted the Colts to win..

Fixed