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Joe Thomas is on the trading block, Matt Miller says we should make a call


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3 minutes ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

Oher was a one or two year max desperation move by Gettleman. He has held up okay, but is still one of the weakest links in this offense. Joe Thomas is an elite LT that is only 30 and under contract through 2018. 

I wouldnt be upset at all if we went out and got him but what would it take to grab an elite LT? They are hard to come by, and im sure Cleveland wont let him go without getting a kings ransom for him. 

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Just now, Bartin said:

On a very reasonable contract as well given how good he is. $8-10M per year. It would probably take a minimum of a 2nd to get him and he's 31 in a month. Don't think I'd be willing to meet the price Cleveland will ask for.

I don't know that I would use the words "very reasonable", it isn't terrible, but a $10 million cap hit is a big difference maker when taking into account that we have Josh Norman to deal with in the offseason, and Kawaan Short has a contract coming up as well.

Not to mention we have to decide what to do with Jonathan Stewart considering his contract.

I mean, I would like to have Joe Thomas, but I doubt Gettleman makes this move. Maybe if Thomas were a few years younger.

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1 minute ago, TheRed said:

I don't know that I would use the words "very reasonable", it isn't terrible, but a $10 million cap hit is a big difference maker when taking into account that we have Josh Norman to deal with in the offseason, and Kawaan Short has a contract coming up as well.

Not to mention we have to decide what to do with Jonathan Stewart considering his contract.

I mean, I would like to have Joe Thomas, but I doubt Gettleman makes this move. Maybe if Thomas were a few years younger.

It's absolutely reasonable for the best LT in the NFL. We could definitely afford it and still sign Kawann and Norman. We would have to cut CJ but that is the right move anyway.

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8 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

Is he $8 million per year better in production than what we are getting out of Oher?

 

8 minutes ago, ctrcat said:

Cap hit hovers around $10 mil.  Knee jerk reaction says fug yes, but I'll believe it when I see it.  Too good to be true.

We only get his salary, Brown have the prorated signing bonus on their cap, remainder hitting next year.

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Just now, Bartin said:

It's absolutely reasonable for the best LT in the NFL. We could definitely afford it and still sign Kawann and Norman. We would have to cut CJ but that is the right move anyway.

Don't forget that we have Jared Allen as well, whose cap hit balloons to $8 million the next two seasons.

I know CJ has quite the cap hit himself, but it's one thing to casually talk about cutting him, and quite another to actually do it without having a proper successor on that end to take over. People saying to nonchalantly cut him will be calling for Gettleman's head if our pass rush struggles.

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The question would become who would you want to give up for Thomas? KK or Josh would be gone and likely a fairly high draft pick would be gone to get him. Would all that be worth it? I don't think so. Oher has great chemistry with these guys and is outplaying his contract right now and we have him locked up next year. Trading for a guy with a $10M cap hit isn't smart. DG is looking at it long term. He sees that we could be set up to have success for years and years like the Patriots (except without the cheating). Would you rather have a Super Bowl win this year and then fade into obscurity like the Seahawks may, or maybe not win this year but be contending year in and year out while possibly/probably winning at least 1 in there? Keep building through the draft and keeping homebred talent while keeping the chemistry of the locker room intact. I would be willing to trade for somebody if it's reasonable but not for a guy like Thomas or Calvin Johnson or even Alshon like has been brought up. Boldin could be a possibility but I honestly don't love the idea. Thinkin' a trade is highly unlikely at this point and that's perfectly fine by me.

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2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Don't forget that we have Jared Allen as well, whose cap hit balloons to $8 million the next two seasons.

I know CJ has quite the cap hit himself, but it's one thing to casually talk about cutting him, and quite another to actually do it without having a proper successor on that end to take over. People saying to nonchalantly cut him will be calling for Gettleman's head if our pass rush struggles.

Jared Allen is a rental. If he doesn't want to take a salary decrease (and who ever does) he's gone.

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Regardless of how good an available player is, I don't see DG making a move unless he feels a need (see: Allen trade, Delaire pick-up when we got thin at DE). The OL has held up reasonably well and I don't think there's a sense of urgency to improve it. 

So this move might be good in a lot of ways, but my gut feeling is that it won't happen.

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3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Don't forget that we have Jared Allen as well, whose cap hit balloons to $8 million the next two seasons.

I know CJ has quite the cap hit himself, but it's one thing to casually talk about cutting him, and quite another to actually do it without having a proper successor on that end to take over. People saying to nonchalantly cut him will be calling for Gettleman's head if our pass rush struggles.

Jared Allen will either be cut after this year or take a pay cut. There's no guaranteed money on his deal and no matter how well he plays this year we won't be paying him that much either of the next two years.

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Just now, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Jared Allen is a rental. If he doesn't want to take a salary decrease (and who ever does) he's gone.

Well Gettleman does not really comment on contracts during the season, so we do not know his plans moving forward as it pertains to Jared Allen. Once again, if you let him walk, who replaces him? It's great to talk about these things casually, but when the games start being played, fans will not be so patient.

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