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Andrew Luck- King of Garbage Time TDs

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I heard this on Highly Questionable:

Andrew Luck in just over 4 years has 17 TDs in games when his team is down by more than 21 points in the second 1/2 of games.

Tom Brady, who has played far more seasons than Luck, has 12 such TDs in his career.

I will said it again. Luck plays in a hyperinflated offense in which he throws the ball 60 times a game. He is allowed to do so because 1. his fan base demands that his OC allow him to do so and 2. his fan base would never turn on him for being a turnover machine.

 

Look at Tampa Bay this year with Winston. You think Winston, even in this his rookie year, would be allowed to consistently throw pick after pick after pick and lead the league in turnovers without the Tampa Bay fans ready to burn down One Buc Place?

I remember when people on this board said it was okay for Newton to have to be perfect in order for the Panthers to win a game. Remember, the Panthers were 0-15 or something in games in which Newton had at least one turnover and the Huddle thought that it was on Newton to be essentially perfect just so we could squeeze by the opponent.

 

If Newton was out here throwing the ball 60 times a game and turnover over the ball at Luck's rate, while getting garbage time TDs, the Huddle would probably burn Newton at the stake. 

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He's basically basically a better The Golden Calf of Bristol.

I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.

Yes, he is struggling now. Yes, he is way, way over-hyped by the media. But it seems like Panther fans would be a bit more objective and level-headed about what factors into the performance of a QB after watching what Cam has gone through.

Put a good team around him and he and Cam will battle for the next 10 years at the top of the league.

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IMO the most accurate narrative of Andrew Luck is that he plays really, really poorly in games sometimes that causes his team to go into deep holes. He then somehow plays really well later in the game to get his team either out of those holes with a win, or really close to it. 

It's actually kind of perplexing. 

he lulls the defense into a false sense of security than has an incredible ability to drive down the field and score touchdowns quickly in the 4th. That's how he wins games

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I struggle w/ certain definitions of "garbage" time.  It is like when Cam did a Superman celebration in a defeat.  Media claimed it was garbage time b/c it was a nice way to bash him.  Reality is....it was a game at that point.

Colts vs. Saints.  Colts were down less than a touchdown with 3 minutes left to play.  If they would have forced a punt on NO's last possession they would have had a chance to win the game.    So how is that a garbage time game?

Fug Lug. 

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I struggle w/ certain definitions of "garbage" time.  It is like when Cam did a Superman celebration in a defeat.  Media claimed it was garbage time b/c it was a nice way to bash him.  Reality is....it was a game at that point.

Colts vs. Saints.  Colts were down less than a touchdown with 3 minutes left to play.  If they would have forced a punt on NO's last possession they would have had a chance to win the game.    So how is that a garbage time game?

When the Colts got down 27-0 in the 3rd, Luck was able to throw TDs on consecutive drives because the same CB fell down on both TD passes to Hilton. Then the IND DEF gave him the ball back 3 times in the 4th, and Luck proceeded to go 3 and OUT on every drive. It wasn't until the NO DEF went prevent up 13 with under 4 minutes left that Luck did anything. The whole statline is the definition of garbage time. Much like his BUF game this year. Watch the NE game. Luck couldn't do anything in the 2nd half until NE went prevent. And their DBs had to drop 4 INTs to let him score. There are numerous examples of this in his 1st 3 seasons as well. Add all the stats from playing the worst division I've ever seen over a 4 year period, and many of Lucks numbers are shallow, at best.

    Is he still a good QB? Of course. Just highly overrated by media. 

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IMO the most accurate narrative of Andrew Luck is that he plays really, really poorly in games sometimes that causes his team to go into deep holes. He then somehow plays really well later in the game to get his team either out of those holes with a win, or really close to it. 

It's actually kind of perplexing. 

its called prevent D

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I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.

Yes, he is struggling now. Yes, he is way, way over-hyped by the media. But it seems like Panther fans would be a bit more objective and level-headed about what factors into the performance of a QB after watching what Cam has gone through.

Put a good team around him and he and Cam will battle for the next 10 years at the top of the league.

I wasn't being facetious or speaking in hyperbole. The dude plays sub-par football for 3 quarters and then turns it on in the 4th to get wins. Clutch as hell.

The Golden Calf of Bristol did the same thing, he just sucked more.

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I wasn't being facetious or speaking in hyperbole. The dude plays sub-par football for 3 quarters and then turns it on in the 4th to get wins. Clutch as hell.

The Golden Calf of Bristol did the same thing, he just sucked more.

It's just that they are nothing alike. Luck makes bone-headed decisions while trying to carry a bad team on his back. But at least he has arm talent.

The Calf is an old school fullback that tried to play QB. One is a legit, although flawed, QB. The other has no business playing that position.

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It's just that they are nothing alike. Luck makes bone-headed decisions while trying to carry a bad team on his back. But at least he has arm talent.

The Calf is an old school fullback that tried to play QB. One is a legit, although flawed, QB. The other has no business playing that position.

I agree with you, he's a legit QB. But he still plays like crap for 3 quarters and then decides to not play like crap in the 4th. 

The Golden Calf of Bristol did the same thing only he wasn't good until the last two minutes. 

Luck still has great games, but there are plenty where he goes full The Golden Calf of Bristol and sucks for at first then decides to suck no longer, put the team on his back and ball out.

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