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"Panthers victory over Seattle means nothing"

heelinfine

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Seattle has lost to 3 undefeated teams and one that simply has their number at home. They are not overhyped, nor is their season complete. This is a sixteen game season and we are only 6 weeks in. Time to put down the kool-aid and look objectively at what the rest of the season holds for them as their toughest stretch of games is complete. 

For you guys to reject the media's opinions so much when it comes to their opinion of the Panthers only to agree with it when it comes to another team need to really learn the meaning of objectivity. 

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Seattle has lost to 3 undefeated teams and one that simply has their number at home. They are not overhyped, nor is their season complete. This is a sixteen game season and we are only 6 weeks in. Time to put down the kool-aid and look objectively at what the rest of the season holds for them as their toughest stretch of games is complete. 

For you guys to reject the media's opinions so much when it comes to their opinion of the Panthers only to agree with it when it comes to another team need to really learn the meaning of objectivity. 

so for us to be "objective" we have to believe a stat nerds narrative about our team no matter how absurd hhis argument is? This article or responses have nothing to  do with Seattle anyway, so what is your point?

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This is so awesome.  I feel bad for any of you that get angry reading that. Some assclown diehard Seahawks reporter in Washington state just dedicated an entire article to a team from North Carolina. 

Why?

Because they got their ass handed to them and I guarantee the little hipster macklemore look-a-like cried in his Starbucks coffee this morning thinking of what to write to try and make the hurt go away.

1. The Washington Post is a DC newspaper not Wa State.

2. Our Panthers represent both Carolinas, not just NC.

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That might be one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

PFF stats more important than record? Guy's probably never watched a down of football in his life.

It's even worse.  He's going off the Pro Football Reference Simple Ranking System, which ignores things like homefield advantage, actual WINS, and pretty much everything other than average margin of victory.  So a team that wins by 50 points next week but loses by 10 the week after will be ranked ahead of a team that won by 17 points two weeks in a row.  Which is why Seattle is still ranked ahead of us--it's all about differential and we play close games.

The guy obviously doesn't understand football.

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It's even worse.  He's going off the Pro Football Reference Simple Ranking System, which ignores things like homefield advantage, actual WINS, and pretty much everything other than average margin of victory.  So a team that wins by 50 points next week but loses by 10 the week after will be ranked ahead of a team that won by 17 points two weeks in a row.  Which is why Seattle is still ranked ahead of us--it's all about differential and we play close games.

The guy obviously doesn't understand football.

This ^^^

That article was the epitome of inductive reasoning - the author knew what he wanted to say, then cherrypicked some really suspect stats to support it.  Stats which, by the way, allowed him to work in his hometown Washington Foreskins into the rankings.

What a second rate homeristic hack.  He should just write for ESPN.

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It's even worse.  He's going off the Pro Football Reference Simple Ranking System, which ignores things like homefield advantage, actual WINS, and pretty much everything other than average margin of victory.  So a team that wins by 50 points next week but loses by 10 the week after will be ranked ahead of a team that won by 17 points two weeks in a row.  Which is why Seattle is still ranked ahead of us--it's all about differential and we play close games.

The guy obviously doesn't understand football.

People wonder why I laugh when they try to defend stat based football analysis to me.

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Simple really...

you can can watch football.....or you can just look at numbers on a piece of paper and pull numbers to make up a story line.

i mean if you watched the Falcon, Seattle and Panther games....those 2 aren't better to date. 

 

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From ESPN Grantland: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nfl-week-6-takeaways-what-the-snapfu/

That shouldn’t take credit away from Newton and the Panthers, who improved to 5-0. The numbers aren’t pretty for Newton, who is completing just 55.4 percent of his passes and averaging an underwhelming 6.9 yards per attempt, but he’s been lethal late in the game. Newton’s QBR over the first three quarters is a mediocre 37.1, which is good for 30th among qualifying passers, but he heats up in the fourth quarter. After the Seahawks game, his fourth-quarter QBR is 94.1, the league’s second-best figure.

And the Panthers now get a three-game homestand of their own, albeit against possibly stiff competition in the Eagles, Colts, and Packers. Carolina is in first place in the NFC South (after Atlanta lost to New Orleans on Thursday night), and it has an 89.9 percent chance of making the playoffs for the third consecutive season, per ESPN’s Football Power Index. And after slipping into the postseason at 7-8-1 last year, the Panthers are projected to finish 11-5. Sure, their schedule might be easier, but other teams have easy schedules and aren’t undefeated. And after the Panthers conquered their nemesis on Sunday, you can’t just wave them off any longer.

From Peter King MMQB:

Cam Newton's QB rating in the first 52 minutes of the game? 18.8.
Cam's QB rating in the final 8 minutes of the game? 142.6
 

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Ah good catch. I still think his use of that "rating system" shows a serious bias and hatred against a good Panthers team. He's either a closet Seahawks fan or is so embarassed of his beloved Redskins this season he needs to spread the hate.

No worries.  Your post probably still applies to DC media folks.

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