Josh Norman Moving Around

[carpanfan96]

Oh yea, Norman's given up huge plays....

On 35 targets.......15 catches- 129 yards- 8.6 ypr- 1Td

42.9% completion percentage, 23.1 passer rating and 5 forced turnovers.. 2 Touchdowns for.

Hopkins, leads NFL in receiving yards...only had 24 against Jno.

So many big plays....

[OneBadCat]

No team has avoided Norman.   Almost looks like they intentionally target him. 

Must means when he isn't making plays he has some bad tape out there IMO.   Rivera referenced that too to a degree when people have acted like he is Deion.

Right on cue.

[teeray]

No team has avoided Norman.   Almost looks like they intentionally target him. 

Must means when he isn't making plays he has some bad tape out there IMO.   Rivera referenced that too to a degree when people have acted like he is Deion.

QBs have a 23.1 QB rating when throwing in his direction, best in the NFL.

I hope he keeps "not making plays" so people keep making the terrible decision to throw in his direction.

lol.

[t96]

Oh yea, Norman's given up huge plays....

On 35 targets.......15 catches- 129 yards- 8.6 ypr- 1Td

42.9% completion percentage, 23.1 passer rating and 5 forced turnovers.. 2 Touchdowns for.

Hopkins, leads NFL in receiving yards...only had 24 against Jno.

So many big plays....

Not sure if this is in response to me but when I said "big plays" up there I was referring to his interceptions, fumble force/recovery, etc. That's how I took it when CRA said it as well, but maybe he meant it differently.

[Khaki Lackey]

I'm interested to see if Norman takes on his ball hawk approach to Wilson.  

Sure, it works on the QBs we have played thus far - but you can't assume Wilson will often undertow cutting routes like they did.

Maybe this year, but it's not like Norman hasn't had success against Brees and Ryan. Wilson is far from the best QB he's faced. 

[SOJA]

I'm pieing CRA for adding to the conversation and it is undeniable that Rivera is not the biggest J-No fan. That being said he has made HUGE plays this year and none bigger than the Saints bail out INT 

[KillaCamNewton]

Lets not forget this is also by far the worst receiving core our secondary has faced

[PantherPhann89]

This this is a very winnable game for us and would be a huge emotional lift for the team and fans...

[t96]

it is undeniable that Rivera is not the biggest J-No fan.\

... Not really

[Fox007]

Oh noes! I forgot.  No football talk.  Only fan talk allowed. 

Ron even addressed it.  A lot of his big plays have come after blown assignments and teams looking to go back and cash in.   As long as he keeps learning and correcting (hence the big plays)....things will be fine.  But teams have looked his way so often for reasons thus far....he has made them pay b/c he hasn't repeated what they were looking at when thrown on.

acknowleding what even the coach will isn't hating 

 

Some people just have to be beaten over the head with it before they see or understand....dood says we've played 4 QB's who suck and who shouldn't' be starting but yet doesn't acknowledge that they don't have the talent  to make Norman pay for his mistakes...it's like he makes a case for Norman being set up but then just says "na he's Norman and a Panther so fug all the other options".

I mean even the great EJ Manuel made Norman pay on a game winning TD when Norman jumped a route...dood is making plays and he should continue to do so but he is making high risk high reward plays....sometimes that route jumping is going to go the other way for a TD...He's playing the same as he always has it's just paying off for now....which means yes he does some bone headed stuff. I'm just glad he's not ONLY doing bone headed stuff and is mixing it up with some of the best CB play in the NFL and that the Panthers have ever head.

But yea Norman gonna Norman...that much is apparent.

What sucks/is weird is that I don't think that GMan and Rivera are going to pay him 10+ mil a year so...wonder if we try to trade him at some point....I thought the offer was fair and even at his current play I wouldn't go more than 8.5 mil a year...

 

 

 

 

[Marguide]

Some people just have to be beaten over the head with it before they see or understand....dood says we've played 4 QB's who suck and who shouldn't' be starting but yet doesn't acknowledge that they don't have the talent  to make Norman pay for his mistakes...it's like he makes a case for Norman being set up but then just says "na he's Norman and a Panther so fug all the other options".

I mean even the great EJ Manuel made Norman pay on a game winning TD when Norman jumped a route...dood is making plays and he should continue to do so but he is making high risk high reward plays....sometimes that route jumping is going to go the other way for a TD...He's playing the same as he always has it's just paying off for now....which means yes he does some bone headed stuff. I'm just glad he's not ONLY doing bone headed stuff and is mixing it up with some of the best CB play in the NFL and that the Panthers have ever head.

But yea Norman gonna Norman...that much is apparent.

What sucks/is weird is that I don't think that GMan and Rivera are going to pay him 10+ mil a year so...wonder if we try to trade him at some point....I thought the offer was fair and even at his current play I wouldn't go more than 8.5 mil a year...

 

 

 

 

So because he blew a coverage 2 years ago, we should not trust him now? Is that what you're saying?

And that holds weight in your mind in spite of the fact that he has been one of the league's best corners over the last 12 games?

Sure, that makes perfect sense.

[teeray]

Some people just have to be beaten over the head with it before they see or understand....dood says we've played 4 QB's who suck and who shouldn't' be starting but yet doesn't acknowledge that they don't have the talent  to make Norman pay for his mistakes...it's like he makes a case for Norman being set up but then just says "na he's Norman and a Panther so fug all the other options".

I mean even the great EJ Manuel made Norman pay on a game winning TD when Norman jumped a route...dood is making plays and he should continue to do so but he is making high risk high reward plays....sometimes that route jumping is going to go the other way for a TD...He's playing the same as he always has it's just paying off for now....which means yes he does some bone headed stuff. I'm just glad he's not ONLY doing bone headed stuff and is mixing it up with some of the best CB play in the NFL and that the Panthers have ever head.

But yea Norman gonna Norman...that much is apparent.

What sucks/is weird is that I don't think that GMan and Rivera are going to pay him 10+ mil a year so...wonder if we try to trade him at some point....I thought the offer was fair and even at his current play I wouldn't go more than 8.5 mil a year...

 

 

 

 

"Remember that one time when that guy made a mistake two years ago...."

[Fox007]

So because he blew a coverage 2 years ago, we should not trust him now? Is that what you're saying?

And that holds weight in your mind in spite of the fact that he has been one of the league's best corners over the last 12 games?

Sure, that makes perfect sense.

No it's the way it happens. He free lances a lot which leads to big plays both ways. If you rewatch the Bills play it looks almost exactly like his Pick 6 where he was trying to take the ball away from a WR who wasn't his man...They(and Rivera) stated it several times that the pick 6 he had was not his responsibility but he took advantage of the QB's eyes and made a play.

Not hard to see how that could backfire some times and yes if he is still doing the same thing as 2 years ago it's prevalent, the difference is it's going for a TD our way(which is a pretty damn big difference). Also if Manuel had thrown that short pass it would have been a pick 6 because he's doing the exact same thing this year, which is watching the QB eyes and not the WR (not always but that's how those plays have gone).

 

[t96]

No it's the way it happens. He free lances a lot which leads to big plays both ways. If you rewatch the Bills play it looks almost exactly like his Pick 6 where he was trying to take the ball away from a WR who wasn't his man...They(and Rivera) stated it several times that the pick 6 he had was not his responsibility but he took advantage of the QB's eyes and made a play.

Not hard to see how that could backfire some times and yes if he is still doing the same thing as 2 years ago it's prevalent, the difference is it's going for a TD our way(which is a pretty damn big difference). Also if Manuel had thrown that short pass it would have been a pick 6 because he's doing the exact same thing this year, which is watching the QB eyes and not the WR (not always but that's how those plays have gone).

 

He hasn't "freelanced" at all since he's been a starter. You have no clue what you're talking about.