A glance at how Kurt Coleman contributes to Carolina's defensive renaissance

[CelibatePimp]

intentionally or otherwise you're building straw men and knocking them down very obnoxiously. dueces

was that why you couldn't attack the crux of my argument? Your post praising Coleman has nothing to do with Coleman lol. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king! 

[PhillyB]

In 2010 I took off to Europe with no clue where I would end up. I met some guys who had planned a year driving around Africa who needed another to join in. We purchased a Land Cruiser in Cape Town and spent a year doing a loop up to Kenya and back. It was the time of my life. We hit about every park we could. I missed a few as I had to come back for a month in the middle. I missed the Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda part.

 

It all just sort of happened and it was perfect.

amazing. i did something similar the year before, only it was to australia and southeast asia (and not for a year.)

my wife has been to uganda but this will be my first time to africa, so i'm pretty pumped. i'll only have two months to squeeze it all in though unfortunately.

[PhillyB]

was that why you couldn't attack the crux of my argument? Your post praising Coleman has nothing to do with Coleman lol. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king! 

why would i attack the crux of your argument? i stated your argument six hours before you came into this thread, once here and once here. you flew in dick a-flappin' ready to say something new and profound and never thought to see if you were misunderstanding the argument being made in the first place (you were, and are.)

you can paypal me your apology

[CelibatePimp]

why would i attack the crux of your argument? i stated your argument six hours before you came into this thread, once here and once here. you flew in dick a-flappin' ready to say something new and profound and never thought to see if you were misunderstanding the argument being made in the first place (you were, and are.)

you can paypal me your apology

You deserve to apologize to the huddle for selling them false info. It's ok to like to football and not be a football savant. Coleman dropping into the box for run support signaling man? You have no idea what you are talking about.

I've already told you any safety worth his salt knows that's not a run play because

1. TE in slot,

2. Shotgun formation and

3. Jameis does not run read option

I guess because u see a running back it must mean oh run play. Can u deny any of what I am saying? This is essentially some type of a cover two trap formation, hence Coleman bails back. This play has nothing to do with Coleman's "versatility". You're in over your head.

Edited October 8, 2015 by CelibatePimp

[csx]

amazing. i did something similar the year before, only it was to australia and southeast asia (and not for a year.)

my wife has been to uganda but this will be my first time to africa, so i'm pretty pumped. i'll only have two months to squeeze it all in though unfortunately.

Ive spent a decent amount of time in South Africa if you have any questions or want suggestions.

[PhillyB]

You deserve to apologize to the huddle for selling them false info. It's ok to like to football and not be a football savant. Coleman dropping into the box for run support signaling man? You have no idea what you are talking about.

I've already told you any safety worth his salt knows that's not a run play because

1. TE in slot,

2. Shotgun formation and

3. Jameis does not run read option

I guess because u see a running back it must mean oh run play. Can u deny any of what I am saying? This is essentially some type of a cover two trap formation, hence Coleman bails back. This play has nothing to do with Coleman's "versatility". You're in over your head.

lol

[CelibatePimp]

Here is an article that is closer to what this whole formation is about

http://www.catscratchreader.com/2015/10/8/9477161/carolina-panthers-all-22-film-analysis-josh-norman-in-trap-coverage

Also here is a video by Bucky Brooks diagnosing the play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whzHjy3Lkuw

 

I like how they both talk Coleman's "versatility" or not! Once again, this play has nothing to do with Coleman. It just blows my mind how you came to that conclusion. Message the mods to unsticky this lol.

[GRWatcher]

PhillyB, great breakdown. And sorry (no, not really) to break up your conversations. :) It never is just 1 player that sets a trap, all 11 need to sell it. If an NFL QB reads only 1 player he won't last long in the NFL. For all we know, Winston was thinking that the line judge was going to change into a pink tutu on his left so he absolutely would only look to the right. Just kidding, guys. 

I have noticed that Coleman has been playing like a man possessed. With Luke out :( I've been watching #20. Very smart man with a good, solid motor.

[PhillyB]

Once again, this play has nothing to do with Coleman.

once again, i said that six hours ago, well before you started shitposting in this thread

 

coleman didn't do anything on that specific play; it's a tribute to his flexibility that he can be used to disguise coverages, which invariably lead to opportunities for other players.

norman's reaction time on that break is absolutely ridiculous and there's no way anyone else on this team makes that play.

 

i am not crediting coleman for the interception, i'm crediting coleman's versatility for better selling the coverage disguise, which helps lead into coverage misreads, which result in interceptions, like the play highlighted in the original post.

i can't possibly be more clear about this, and you couldn't possibly be more inept at reading words and meaning. quit posting unless you have something useful to say

[CelibatePimp]

PhillyB, great breakdown. And sorry (no, not really) to break up your conversations. :) It never is just 1 player that sets a trap, all 11 need to sell it. If an NFL QB reads only 1 player he won't last long in the NFL. For all we know, Winston was thinking that the line judge was going to change into a pink tutu on his left so he absolutely would only look to the right. Just kidding, guys. 

I have noticed that Coleman has been playing like a man possessed. With Luke out :( I've been watching #20. Very smart man with a good, solid motor.

Again, when I said Boston will be benched for Coleman before the beginning of the season, people were throwing pitchforks at me. Coleman understands what this defense is trying to do and is less susceptible to mistakes compared to Boston. Boston has a lot to learn as a FS.

[TheRed]

CelibatePimp, you should go back on your hiatus instead of shitposting in threads of people who actually contribute.

[CelibatePimp]

 

once again, i said that six hours ago, well before you started shitposting in this thread

 

 

i am not crediting coleman for the interception, i'm crediting coleman's versatility for better selling the coverage disguise, which helps lead into coverage misreads, which result in interceptions, like the play highlighted in the original post.

i can't possibly be more clear about this, and you couldn't possibly be more inept at reading words and meaning. quit posting unless you have something useful to say

What coverage disguise did he sell? The only "disguise" going on is Norman not playing the deep vertical! Unless Winston motioned any of the WRs before the snap, there is no way to know if it's man or zone. I'll like to know how you came to that conclusion because I don't see any motioning from your cut up

[PhillyB]

What coverage disguise did he sell? The only "disguise" going on is Norman not playing the deep vertical! Unless Winston motioned any of the WRs before the snap, there is no way to know if it's man or zone. I'll like to know how you came to that conclusion because I don't see any motioning from your cut up

guess how i know you didn't read the post?

 

[CelibatePimp]

guess how i know you didn't read the post?

 

You said Coleman dropping into the box means his assignment is running back hence man coverage? That couldn't be further from the truth dude. You diagnose man/zone by motioning players and seeing if a specific defender follows them. None of that occurred here.

Just admit you got it wrong.