The Devin Funchess "drop"

[Newtcase]

No.  Not when his arms are extended behind him and the defender runs into his arms just as the ball arrives.  It's one thing to hold on when your body gets hit right as the ball arrives, but entirely another to hold on when your outstreched arms are hit while youre trying to secure the ball.  Only the best of the best make those catches.

Yeah, this would have a been a good catch for TD, but best of the best....naw it wouldn't take a best of the best effort to catch this ball..

[TinyRedDucks]

If the ball hits you where that pass hits you, you have to catch it. Slightly behind, but both hands were able to be on that ball. At the NFL level, receivers make that catch ALL the time. He's a rookie who has seen limited snaps and fewer targets. Drops are to be expected. Saying it was a "bad" throw Is patently absurd.

Is it an easier throw to make or an easier catch?  It's easy to say "you have to catch it" but it's even easier to say that Cam has to make that throw.  He's not a rookie, he's an MVP candidate and even non MVP candidates make that throw "ALL the time".  That one got away. 

[TinyRedDucks]

If Cam, throws that ball any higher, it's easier to pick off by a defender.

Crazy pills.

[CarolinaSock]

You won't find this listed as a drop by any stat collecting site out there. Just like a lot of the horrible throws our receivers barely get a hand on then get blamed for a "drop" by folks around here. 

[Day_One]

The ball was catchable, but not easily.  They just need to get him the ball more. He will get in rythm.  He is a rookie, but he didnt look bad in college. 

[lightsout]

Is it an easier throw to make or an easier catch?  It's easy to say "you have to catch it" but it's even easier to say that Cam has to make that throw.  He's not a rookie, he's an MVP candidate and even non MVP candidates make that throw "ALL the time".  That one got away. 

The ball hit him in the hip, in stride. He didn't have to throw his arm away from his momentum to make the catch. He had to open up and drop his hands down a hair. A catch you see WEEKLY in the league. If that throw "got away" then you have an unrealistic idea of how accurate QBs have to be.



Or maybe, just maybe, you are part of the problem with this fan base. Cam Newton has the strongest start to his season, and you focus on every ball that isn't perfectly placed and say "SEE!? He isn't accurate! Told ya! Start DA!" 

[TinyRedDucks]

Or maybe, just maybe, you are part of the problem with this fan base. Cam Newton has the strongest start to his season, and you focus on every ball that isn't perfectly placed and say "SEE!? He isn't accurate! Told ya! Start DA!" 

That's actually not at all what I'm saying.  I'm saying he's an MVP candidate.  I'm saying he's off to arguably his strongest start.  I'm saying he missed a throw.

His accuracy continues to be a question and it's due to his sometimes sloppy footwork, but that's a discussion for a different thread.  Cam missed a throw, simple and plain.

I'm not naive enough to believe that these games mean anything though.  I am looking ahead to Seattle, GB, Arizona, Atlanta, Dallas, etc come playoff time, not Tampa fuging Bay.  Plays like that decide playoff games, championship games.  I want Cam to make that throw when it matters.  So you be a "good fan" and be fuging stoked we beat Tampa Bay and Jacksonville and all the nobodies in the world and I'll be the "bad fan" admitting our MVP QB missed 1 throw.

 

Crazy Pills 

[beastson]

Re-watching this play, the defender did a good job tackling Devin, pulling his arm down.

[Jeremy Igo]

Devin talks about this on the huddle podcast. You should have a listen. 

[Jackofalltrades]

He needs to work with someone like Randy Moss in the offseason. Randy wasn't physical and had a similar, slim build. He could learn a lot from Moss.

[lightsout]

That's actually not at all what I'm saying.  I'm saying he's an MVP candidate.  I'm saying he's off to arguably his strongest start.  I'm saying he missed a throw.

His accuracy continues to be a question and it's due to his sometimes sloppy footwork, but that's a discussion for a different thread.  Cam missed a throw, simple and plain.

I'm not naive enough to believe that these games mean anything though.  I am looking ahead to Seattle, GB, Arizona, Atlanta, Dallas, etc come playoff time, not Tampa fuging Bay.  Plays like that decide playoff games, championship games.  I want Cam to make that throw when it matters.  So you be a "good fan" and be fuging stoked we beat Tampa Bay and Jacksonville and all the nobodies in the world and I'll be the "bad fan" admitting our MVP QB missed 1 throw.

 

Crazy Pills 

Stopped when you said "his accuracy continues to be a question".

Cam has proven he has greatly improved his accuracy (which I think is largely a product of actually being healthy for the first time in 4 years). The "bad" throws that are cited? No more than ANY QB in the league. No QB throws a perfect pass every time. No, not even Rodgers. He misses a few each game. Some throws aren't even bad placement. They're purposefully put in a spot where the receiver catches it or it falls incomplete. Cam has MASTERED that technique. Sometimes it's due to lack of ability on the receiver's part (Cotch going down the seam, for instance). Cam hasn't had but a few really off the wall throws this season. I defy you to find them if I am wrong.

If the ball hits you DIRECTLY in BOTH of your hands, in stride, and you're not having to be a ballerina to go up and get it, the throw is not the problem. Was the throw perfect? No, it wasn't. Was it well enough placed that it should have been caught? Yes. Was it an outright drop? No, it was partly a great play by the defender.

I get bent up over this because you act like you know what you're talking about when you display, repeatedly, that you have no idea what you're talking about.

[B.BERSIN]

He is physically weak and does know how to use his body ex. Boxing out

 

 

also his locating the in the ball is terrible so far

You are pretty mean to a rookie.

[lightsout]

You are pretty mean to a rookie.

It is a bit harsh, but it's not really off point. However, he is just 21 years old. He's one of the younger guys in the league. At his size, he needs to add some muscle and impose himself on opposing secondaries. His ball tracking seems fine, but we have a small sample size. I believe the poster you were quoting was referencing the endzone throw a couple games back. If so, I think that's just a chemistry thing and less of a ball-tracking issue.

I believe Funch will get more reps as the season progresses. He'll have to, because he's our best physical specimen at receiver right now. Big, quick, deceptive speed. Gotta get him some touches and raise his confidence. Make teams respect him so Ginn and Brown are getting more opportunities. Once we have somebody other than Olsen that demands attention, I believe our offense may really take off. But we have to get that first.

[propagandamachine]

Devin will truly shine as the season goes on. He truly is a rookie ... once he starts getting acclimated watch as he destroys teams with crazy third downs