Bears looking to trade Alshon???

[Mr. Scot]

This is an enormos hindsight fallacy. In many regards he had a similar approach to management that Gettleman does, which I'd say you could argue trickles down from the top.  

The difference between them is Gettleman's ability to scout talent and manage the financial situation. 

I wonder how many championshipless seasons will go by before fans start to realize that building a team for 4-5 years down the road isnt always worth sacrificing being elite now (because, logically, if youre always preparing for the future then the future never comes) The team has realized this and is making moves accordingly, how long will it take do you think for the fans to readjust their mindset?

it's a very simple, very popular rule in the NFL-if youre one or two players away from being a contender now-you make that move.

Oh yeah. Gettleman loves to trade future first round picks and throw blockbuster contracts at players.

[KillerKat]

idgaf. Hell yeah. We would become strong contenders instantly. 

[Growl]

Oh yeah. Gettleman loves to trade future first round picks and throw blockbuster contracts at players.

in addition to the irony that those are moves you no doubt defended at that time because Hurney had a Panthers logo on his polo it should also be pointed out that these things are both increasing in frequency as time here increases. As they should. Afterall im fairly certainly the argument your camp put forth every offseason was that he didnt do those things because of Hurney blaming. 

So which is it? Did he want to make those moves, be just like Hurney, but was handcuffed, or did he not want to do them at all and every time that argument was put forth it was just a stall through the grinder to keep the apologetics going?

[Mr. Scot]

in addition to the irony that those are moves you no doubt defended at that time because Hurney had a Panthers logo on his polo it should also be pointed out that these things are both increasing in frequency as time here increases. As they should. Afterall im fairly certainly the argument your camp put forth every offseason was that he didnt do those things because of Hurney blaming. 

So which is it? Did he want to make those moves, be just like Hurney, but was handcuffed, or did he not want to do them at all and every time that argument was put forth it was just a stall through the grinder to keep the apologetics going?

You assume wrong.  I gave up on Hurney well before he was fired.  An analysis I did of his draft picks was what soured my opinion of him.

Gettleman is nothing like Hurney.

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

As a side note, could we stop saying Fox is the one wheeling and dealing on the personnel moves. I'm sure he gets a say, but the Bears do have a new GM. (used to work in the Saints front office, can't remember the name...)

[Mr. Scot]

As a side note, could we stop saying Fox is the one wheeling and dealing on the personnel moves. I'm sure he gets a say, but the Bears do have a new GM. (used to work in the Saints front office, can't remember the name...)

Ryan Pace

[Bartin]

The difference between them is Gettleman's ability to scout talent and manage the financial situation. 

 

It's much easier to manage the financial situation when the cap is skyrocketing every year compared to when the cap was stagnating in Hurney's last few years. I do prefer Gettleman over Hurney but I do believe some context is necessary.

[top dawg]

We spent a 1st round pick on a WR and then the following year traded up to get another WR in the 2nd round. 

And yet still everyone wants to trade for more WR's? Is this position that glamorous to everybody?

Y'all would have absolutely LOVED Matt Millen as a GM. 

 For me,  it's not about glamor,  it's about running an efficient offense and being able to compete with the elite of the league. Cam,  the O-line and RBs are having to work a whole lot harder because of lack of play makers at the position,  and as a result we are not getting the productivity out of the running or passing game that we could. 

I wouldn't give up a king's ransom to anyone,  but fair market value is always on the table.  At this point,  I am just eating my popcorn and watching what Gman  does (if he does anything). 

[Mr. Scot]

It's much easier to manage the financial situation when the cap is skyrocketing every year compared to when the cap was stagnating in Hurney's last few years. I do prefer Gettleman over Hurney but I do believe some context is necessary.

It's even easier when you're not throwing huge money at the wrong players and/or drafting guys who don't produce.

[Bartin]

It's even easier when you're not throwing huge money at the wrong players and/or drafting guys who don't produce.

Hurney drafted or acquired Cam, Luke, Kalil, Davis, Olsen and CJ. All six of our captains and the core of the team. Did he make some really bad decisions? Absolutely, but to act like he was a completely inept moron is revisionist history and silly. I'm actually convinced half the fan base thinks Gettleman drafted Luke.

[CPF4LIFE]

Someone tell me who is CPAT?

[Clicheking]

Great idea in a dream world. But the pick we'd have to give up and the ensuing salary he demands wouldn't be worth it. We just invested a 1st and a 2nd in wr's, you can keep throwing picks at wr's because then you become the Colts. A bunch of flashy weapons with no line to protect for them, and no defense to keep the score down when they occasionally struggle.

[motocross_cat]

I wouldnt be willing to put the future of the team specifically the defence in jeopardy over a flashy wr. Financially i mean.

Would be cool to have him but defence wins games, just ask norman....

[Moorgan]

Someone tell me who is CPAT?

I'm going with Corderelle Patterson and I don't particularly want him.