Monday Night Countdown: Andrew Luck needs more around him.

[AceBoogie]

What's often understated is the coaching staff they've assembled for him. Got his college OC, Chud as an offensive assistant. 

[*FreeFua*]

Last night everyone saw what it would look like if Luck had to play with the OL Cam played with for the last 2 seasons. It's truly amazing what Cam is able to accomplish with so little around him. 

[nctarheel0619]

Last night everyone saw what it would look like if Luck had to play with the OL Cam played with for the last 2 seasons. It's truly amazing what Cam is able to accomplish with so little around him. 

Who do we blame for so little around him with 10 million in cap room?  Hurney?  Gettlemen?  I'm a little confused with this one.  

[Kakarot]

Ah yes. The great Huddler is here to proclaim how one Andrew Luck doesn't have great weapons...while all off season claiming that the Panthers have good offensive personnel...

Methinks if one Andrew Luck was in Carolina surrounded by what Newton is surrounded by currently the same poster will be ready stage a sit-in until the Panthers front office spent the entire draft on offense...

You saw that too. 

Well, I know many on here like to claim Cam will never be a pinpoint passer like Manning or Brees. Judging by the stats, ole Lucky won't be pinpoint either. I believe both QBs are close in completion percentage. 

He's very inconsistent, and lol @ Luck not having great weapons. Man, please.

[Car123]

Dorsett would probably be our #2 WR.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Who do we blame for so little around him with 10 million in cap room?  Hurney?  Gettlemen?  I'm a little confused with this one.  

i know who everyone would be blaming if we had to cut charles johnson and ryan kalil and let josh norman walk just to sign our draft picks and maybe bring in a warm body or two because we spent up to the cap in 2015 and didn't roll anything over

[mcdougal]

What's often understated is the coaching staff they've assembled for him. Got his college OC, Chud as an offensive assistant. 

I think this deserves more discussion. Luck was drafted No. 1 overall...the Colts very next pick used was his college roommate at Stanford. Prior to the draft they made sure to retain Reggie Wayne and go get Bruce Arians as OC.

The next season they added more of his college teammates and hired his college OC as their new OC. Of course, they have continued to give Luck everything he could ever want adding more WR help, crafting the offensive around what he likes to do, etc.

When his starting RB went down, the Colts immediately sent a No. 1 pick to Cleveland for a RB that was a top 10 pick just the season prior (I know that RB was a bust but is they at least tried)...They acquired a Pro Bowl offensive lineman from Philly during Free Agency...Acquired Johnson and Gore...

Who doubts after this season, if need be, the Colts will dump the likes of Gore and Johnson and some-what expensive defensive pieces in order to get Luck more Pro Bowl Tackles and Guards?

From the very start, the Colts have done everything in their power to make Luck comfortable and individual successful on paper. Not stating an opinion on the approach, but the Panthers almost gone in the opposite direction with Newton.

[Diehardpanther02]

Believe it or not after watching the game, his o-line is pretty doggone bad.  His weapons are good, but you cant utilize those weapons with no time to throw.  This is where I think Cam has the edge over Luck, under duress Cam does make mistakes but he can also make a defense pay with his legs and his arm.  Luck seems to turn the ball over at a much higher rate when pressured.  That Jets defense isn't no slouch either and you can guarantee the colts win at least 5 of their divisional games and throw in an upset somewhere.  But i just dont see the titans, houston, or jacksonville threatening their division championship.  This could possibly be a conference winner worse than 7-9.  I hope the jags can somehow manage to pull out as the winner of that division though, and expose that colts team and the weak ass division they play in.

[Diehardpanther02]

I dont think the colts are a guarantee to win their division this year.  Houston, The Jags, and Titans all have the defense to win a game against them.  Especially Houston and The jags, both have the front to harass Luck and it could be that simple little aspect that could squeak out a win and potentially and new division winner its a long shot but more possible than ever for that division to change.

[Castavar]

I agree.

The Panthers have put a Super Bowl contender around Cam; elite defense, solid OL, big WRs, solid RBs.

The Colts have surrounded Luck with 500 throwing options and no OL or defense. One of the worst rosters in the league. He'll be their Peyton clone; inflated stats and annual ass kickings in January. 

Thank you!

I don't know why people keep complaining about putting weapons around Cam. An elite defense and a good O-line (getting better every year) is the BEST weapon you could give a QB.

[Jangler]

We need Spike Lee saying "it's gotta be the division"

[cbarrier90]

I agree.

The Panthers have put a Super Bowl contender around Cam; elite defense, solid OL, big WRs, solid RBs.

The Colts have surrounded Luck with 500 throwing options and no OL or defense. One of the worst rosters in the league. He'll be their Peyton clone; inflated stats and annual ass kickings in January. 

They are the pre-Dan Quinn Atlanta Falcons. Build everything on the outside and ignore the trenches. Sign older veterans to win-now. And what's worse, their "mortgage the future" draft pick trade got them Trent Richardson instead of a Julio Jones.

Everybody wants to blame Pagano, but maybe they should start with the guy that got swindled in a trade with the BROWNS.

Interesting point there about them making the same mistakes they made with Peyton. Maybe Irsay wants to run his team like the average Huddler and just get weapons weapons weapons and more weapons.

[thefuzz]

Many on this website kicked, screamed, and cried this offseason about how well the Colts surround their young QB with talent while DG hates Cam and doesn't want to see him succeed.

WR's are not the only place on the football team that you can have talent....and lord knows we certainly don't have much there, but we sure do in other areas, and it's showing.

[Mr. Scot]

The graphic they showed last night about how many different OL they've gone through was pretty telling.