Are we overrating Star?

[PanthersUnited]

I know you can read the title alone and likely get out the pitchforks so to speak. For what it's worth let me just go on the record and say that I am in no way, shape or form bashing Star, I am not bashing the player that he is nor the man that he is for that matter.   I actually think Star is a solid player, definatley one of the best DTs we have had since all pro Sione Fua (I kid I kid)..

But with that being said, I am of the opinion that we are overrating Star. I'm not going to bore you with stats, numbers and comparisons, instead I'm going to keep this simple.. Since Star has missed games, I honestly haven't been able to tell a difference in our D..

We still seem to be the same dominate D in the games he has not played. It just seems like our D doesn't miss a beat with or without him. Lete put it this way, since he has missed games, there really hasn't been that moment where I said to myself "omg our D looks so bad, we need Star back badly." Our D has continued to be so good I couldn't tell the difference honestly. What are your thoughts?

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

didn't you want to trade him to the raiders for the 4th overall pick and draft amari cooper? who's alt account is this?

[Castavar]

[TheRumGone]

The wierdest part is you kind of make at least a teeny tiny bit of sense in the tinderbox.

 

honestly you made me question myself when I read those posts

[micnificent28]

 I would have to disagree. We beat some bad teams without star. Everyone loves to point out how well of a run stuffer he is but he helps in the pass rush as well. Star is one of penetrating  forces that makes plays in the back field. I don't think we get that from love. 

[PanthersUnited]

didn't you want to trade him to the raiders for the 4th overall pick and draft amari cooper? who's alt account is this?

No I didn't but I would actually make that trade, we would still easily field a top 10 D while being set at WR

[FuFuLamePoo]

if anything he's underrated wtf.  when we added him our good/average defense became elite

[Crixtala]

from a player-to-fan standpoint? no

in comparison to the front office? i think so, majorly

i think a lot of people are going to be shocked when the FO makes a bigger push in retaining KK than Star... i honeslty wouldn't be surprised if we witness another Peppers situation - a tag or two and then letting him walk.

 

now, i'm not saying that he's not a great player... i just get the sense the FO is a little disappointed to this point, or have at least been substantially more impressed with KK... of course, Star could come out and have a huge year an make all this irrelevant

[Shufdog]

We've only played one game, we really don't know what we have yet if you think about it. I wouldn't start trying to use stats for individuals on a game by game basis yet.

I do appreciate your write up and opinion though, but I think we need more of a sample.

[Datawire]

Who has overrated him? Look, I have had your back a couple of times. Never been one to join the asshole crowd that thinks it's cool to jump on you but, damn.

If this season fails, it's your fault. Coach PU it's your goddamn fault!

[Peppers90 NC]

Why did I even open?

[SixMileDrive]

I know you can read the title alone and likely get out the pitchforks so to speak. For what it's worth let me just go on the record and say that I am in no way, shape or form bashing Star, I am not bashing the player that he is nor the man that he is for that matter.   I actually think Star is a solid player, definatley one of the best DTs we have had since all pro Sione Fua (I kid I kid)..

But with that being said, I am of the opinion that we are overrating Star. I'm not going to bore you with stats, numbers and comparisons, instead I'm going to keep this simple.. Since Star has missed games, I honestly haven't been able to tell a difference in our D..

We still seem to be the same dominate D in the games he has not played. It just seems like our D doesn't miss a beat with or without him. Lete put it this way, since he has missed games, there really hasn't been that moment where I said to myself "omg our D looks so bad, we need Star back badly." Our D has continued to be so good I couldn't tell the difference honestly. What are your thoughts?

Did you watch the game last week? TJ Yeldon looked fantastic against our D. If we didn't have so many turnovers in the passing game, they would have rushed for a lot more than 96 yards. Holding a team to 4.6 ypc is nothing to be proud of. We weren't especially great against the run in Seattle either (Lynch had 4.2 ypc). I'm not saying that he's an all pro, but he's a game changer. Maybe take a few minutes to think through your premise before posting something stupid next time?

[Jangler]

This is his 3rd year, right? He's gettin ready to 'splode!

[UpstatePanther]

Star Lotulelei finished second overall in run stoppage percentage, and recorded 23 pressures along with 42 tackles and 3 sacks AS A ROOKIE (Star was named to five All-Rookie teams by the by).

In two seasons, Star has amassed 46 defensive stops and 41 QB pressures.

 

You tell me, are we overrating Star?

dont bore him with stats and numbers and stuff! just your ooey gooey feel-good emotion feelings...