SoA Season 2

[phidelt649]

Was there disagreement between the 2 on what to do before Donna got shot? It seems more than just a simple mistake, it seems Jax didn't want it in the first place(goes with the recurring theme of Clay acting before thinking and Jax trying to look at the big picture). Also, who else knows? Clay, Jax and Tig obviously, but it seems like Gemma knows and maybe the old guy with the respirator.

Great show, but it seems like something has to give. They can build the tension forever.

Yes Piney (the old guy with the respirator) knows, that is actually Opie's dad. Clay and Tigg made the choice without consulting anyone else in the club. If I recall correctly, a vote was taken to trust that Opie wasn't going to turn them in, so Clay ordered Tigg to take care of it. Jax discovered through Hale who first figured it out.

Also, Davidson: If you remember the first episode with Tom Arnold, he keeps plenty of muscle under his command. And though Zobelle has shown he isn't above working with the Mayans, I haven't seen him once deal with any black men and half of Tom Arnold's muscle is black.

[Scrumtrilescent]

Don't know if they've ever said or I just missed it, but is Bobby a founding member of SAMCRO with Clay, Piney,and Jax's dad? He's turning into almost a surrogate father for Jax now that Piney has run oft to his cabin.

[phidelt649]

Don't know if they've ever said or I just missed it, but is Bobby a founding member of SAMCRO with Clay, Piney,and Jax's dad? He's turning into almost a surrogate father for Jax now that Piney has run oft to his cabin.

No, Bobby isn't one of the founders. The only two founder (that we know of) currently alive are Clay and Piney.

[Davidson Deac II]

Yes Piney (the old guy with the respirator) knows, that is actually Opie's dad. Clay and Tigg made the choice without consulting anyone else in the club. If I recall correctly, a vote was taken to trust that Opie wasn't going to turn them in, so Clay ordered Tigg to take care of it. Jax discovered through Hale who first figured it out.

Also, Davidson: If you remember the first episode with Tom Arnold, he keeps plenty of muscle under his command. And though Zobelle has shown he isn't above working with the Mayans, I haven't seen him once deal with any black men and half of Tom Arnold's muscle is black.

True, but I think that Zobelle would use whomever he can to achieve his goal, black or otherwise.

[phidelt649]

True, but I think that Zobelle would use whomever he can to achieve his goal, black or otherwise.

I suppose it could be Zobelle, I again just don't see the point. The club has shown on multiple occasions that they are willing to walk all over Luanne so I can't see how this would hurt Samcro as opposed to the other things Zobelle has done (Chibbs, Gemma, etc).

[Zaximus]

I suppose it could be Zobelle, I again just don't see the point. The club has shown on multiple occasions that they are willing to walk all over Luanne so I can't see how this would hurt Samcro as opposed to the other things Zobelle has done (Chibbs, Gemma, etc).

Well Luanne knew the business. And now it's SAMCRO's business since they went in as a partner. They fronted a lot of money to get her back up and in business. So now that the person that knows the business is gone, SAMCRO is out of a lot of money and a future to make legit money is out the door. I suppose they could find someone to replace her, but I'm sure it's not a easy business and all of that. I know it's PORN, but it still takes people with knowledge.

Then you have to think about how this rips another hole in the club. He probably knows it'll stir some things. He went after the husband, now killed the wife.

[Davidson Deac II]

As Maximus said, the death of Luanne further exacerbates tensions within the club. And destroying the club is what Zobelle wants to do.

[j2sgam]

See, but how can yous not think its Caruso? After SAMCRO left his office with their camera & comp, the bodyguard asks him "What do you want to do now?". The look he gave without saying anything is a classic TV setup for someone dying. When is the club just going to be able to bust the League's ass without some dumb sh_t happening? Zobelle only went after Otto in jail because the rape didnt work, so he had to send a message to Clay & them. I am still wondering how Rollins will react when he finds out about Zobelle and the Mayans. Now theres some internal turmoil...

[Davidson Deac II]

Zobelle looks like more of a possible player in Luanne's death after this weeks episode.

I wonder if Darby or the masturbator survived?

[Munkey]

Zobelle looks like more of a possible player in Luanne's death after this weeks episode.

I wonder if Darby or the masturbator survived?

I like this season so far.

I think the masturbator lived and saved Darby at the same time. I bet him and Darby end up telling Jax what really happened and make everything ok between him and Clay.

[Davidson Deac II]

I like this season so far.

I think the masturbator lived and saved Darby at the same time. I bet him and Darby end up telling Jax what really happened and make everything ok between him and Clay.

I think you are right about the masturbator. But I don't think that it will make things right between Jax and Clay. Might be a reprieve, but thats about it. Notice that in the previews, it appears that Gemma admits suspicions about how Jax's father died?

[Munkey]

I think you are right about the masturbator. But I don't think that it will make things right between Jax and Clay. Might be a reprieve, but thats about it. Notice that in the previews, it appears that Gemma admits suspicions about how Jax's father died?

Yeah, but in the first season Gemma was talking to Clay about how Jax can never find out about how his dad really died.

So she's either playing Clay and making herself look like she didn't know to Jax so the Club can stop being "evil" in Clay's hand, or that first episode in season 1 was misleading.

[Davidson Deac II]

Yeah, but in the first season Gemma was talking to Clay about how Jax can never find out about how his dad really died.

So she's either playing Clay and making herself look like she didn't know to Jax so the Club can stop being "evil" in Clay's hand, or that first episode in season 1 was misleading.

I was thinking the same thing. If she really is talking to Jax in that scene, she might be playing him.

[Davidson Deac II]

Timing is everything. Gemma picked the right time to spill the beans I guess.