Norman Contract Talks Stall per Person

[ChampD1012]

We'll tag him if he's a shutdown corner for the whole season...

 

[Growl]

Kind of figured this was why nothing had happened. Cant blame him.

[jumpman910]

Good for Josh.  Get that money 

[Mage]

I have to disagree with what I think your point is there.  Seattle is the perfect example.  Their front 7 is pretty ordinary outside of Wagner.  Their secondary makes them look much better.

Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Brandon Mebane, Bruce Irvin, KJ Wright, added Ahtyba Rubin this offseason... that is not an ordinary front 7.

Then when you consider the guys they lost in Chris Clemons, Tony McDaniel, they had Kevin Williams in '14 and he played well in the role asked of him, their front 7 has always been really good.  Not 49ers 2011-2013 good obviously, but still amazing.

[Jangler]

I guess the question is, Has he played at an elite level for 3 years? 

[Khaki Lackey]

He is only going to get one big contract based on his age.  Can you really blame him? 

 

No, can't blame him. Nor would I blame Gettleman for not giving it to him either. I hope we keep him, but I just don't see it happening.

[Snake]

It's up to Norman to prove he can't be replaced this year.  IMO though he is just not as good as he thinks he is.  

[Jangler]

It's up to Norman to prove he can't be replaced this year.  IMO though he is just not as good as he thinks he is.  

3 ints and 18 deflections in 3 years. Are there QBs afraid to throw his way?

[the butch]

With our pass rush looking kinda shaky after Hardy's departure, I don't see us investing a ton of money into Norman.  Props to DG for trying to get a deal done before the year began, knowing that if Josh has another great year, he will bring more money demands.

Truthfully, though, Ealy is still somewhat of an unknown and needs to prove himself.  Star isn't even starting the first game due to a foot issue.  CJ is making way too much money.  Our backup DTs are gonna retire at some point.  The wheels could come off our DL at any point--or nothing could happen.  The point is you don't go sinking money into one position if you can't get maximum value for it.  A CB is best when defending for about 3-4 seconds.  If the pass rush can't get there, then the WR has an exponential edge over the CB, and thus the CB's value plummets.  I don't even see DG franchising Josh if it came to that.  Let him walk and get a comp. pick.

[MHS831]

Norman is at his best when the front 7 is balling. He makes bone-headed decisions.  He wants to be paid like an elite player, but his play has not been consistently elite.

[MHS831]

2016 Draft:

1. DE

2, CB

3.DT

4. CB

5. C

6. OT

[the butch]

2016 Draft:

1. DE

2, CB

3.DT

4. CB

5. C

6. OT

Depending on how the season shakes out, this could change drastically.  But right now, I'm OK with this draft.

[JawnyBlaze]

Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Brandon Mebane, Bruce Irvin, KJ Wright, added Ahtyba Rubin this offseason... that is not an ordinary front 7.

Then when you consider the guys they lost in Chris Clemons, Tony McDaniel, they had Kevin Williams in '14 and he played well in the role asked of him, their front 7 has always been really good.  Not 49ers 2011-2013 good obviously, but still amazing.

Mebane is the only one I'd put above average, just so.  Bennett, Avril are average.  Irvin may be below average.  Decent pass rusher, but brings nothing else to the defense.  Wright and Clemons, average.  They get sacks cuz the QB has to hold onto the ball so long.

edit: The only player listed that would start for our team is one of the DE's, probably Bennett, opposite CJ.  And that's only now because we're having to start Ealy since Hardy left. 

[Jackofalltrades]

3 ints and 18 deflections in 3 years. Are there QBs afraid to throw his way?

Those numbers grossly misrepresent CB play, in general.