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Kuechly, Panthers agree to 5-year, $62M extension

dldove77

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saints4lifeagain Rookie

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Luke doesn't sack quarterbacks or defend TDs. Tackles are high volume stats that anybody can get. D-linemen get tackles too but they don't even mention them most of the time. Luke is a beneficiary of what D-linemen do. D-linemen don't benefit from any other position because they're the front line. A 'smart' LB with little athletic pride can collect a bunch of half tackles and pad their stats. They call that trick of the trade. Luke knows the trick of the trade. That's why you always hear announcers mention that "he's involved in every play". If he were a CB, per se, he wouldn't be involved in every play since there is no reward for doing so.

I think they need to remove half tackles and tackles pass the line of scrimmage as part of the stat. Defensive players should not be rewarded for allowing a RB to pick up 10 yards and then tackle him. The steelers ate us alive on the ground last year while defensive players like Kuechly was still collecting his tackle tackle stats. Only tackles behind the line of scrimmage should count.

I don't ever want to be given poo about being a Saints fan here again while you have this thing roaming your boards.

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The NFL Shield At Midfield Grand Master

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I don't ever want to be given poo about being a Saints fan here again while you have this thing roaming your boards.

he's a real smart guy with an excellent football mind

last year he was arguing about how justin houston was a better player than JJ watt because he had more sacks.  he specifically called watt an overhyped media creation.

look out for this kid in an NFL front office some day i'll tell you that much

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If Luke were a RB, CB, or WR then that would be a feat. The value of inside players is always up to debate since they so inter-dependent. Thus, success is often arbitrary.

I'd say you don't even know what arbitrary means.

But Luke's success isn't "arbitrary".  It's there because he's the best linebacker - and one of the best defensive players at any position - in the game.

People who actually know football - and know what "arbitrary" actually means - are aware of this.

Certain others who are too ignorant to get it...well, they don't.

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PFF has a really nice piece which explains why Luke's dominance is about so much more than just his tackle stats. 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/09/10/why-luke-kuechly-is-one-of-nfls-best-lbs/

Kuechly is only 24 years old, which is incredible for someone who has already been voted Defensive Player of the Year. He has become a mainstay in the discussion of the top defensive players in the NFL in that short time as well. There are not many LBs in the NFL who show as much preparation during a game as he does.

His coverage skills can be special at times. He knows how to lean to favorite receivers on route concepts, he knows how to react off the QB’s vision in zone concepts, he can run the middle of the field in Tampa 2 schemes and yet still knows when to sit on a route and take away a throw for a potential first down on Tampa 2 beaters. Kuechly isn’t the only LB who prepares to know these things, but his ability to execute them can make for a special player.

People often mention tackles when discussing the play of linebackers, but what makes a player great against the run is not a stat, it is his play recognition and ability to shed blockers. Kuechly also shines in this area, with instincts and vision while allowing a play to unfold. Rarely do you see Kuechly out of position on a run play, and more often than not you will also see him pursue with effort to make up for others’ mistakes.

Perhaps most impressive is that Kuechly has improved every single year he has been in the NFL. Some may argue his 2013 campaign was better than his 2014 season, but the PFF grades tell a different story. In 2013, he graded out at +11.1, while improving all the way to +28.4 in 2014. The difference in perception is consistency. Kuechly’s 2013 season was filled with very impressive splash plays and good play overall, but there were lapses that were big enough to drop his grade. In 2014, Kuechly became a much cleaner player, and while he may not have been as “electric”, the steady pulse of great play was really something to watch.

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I'm not the type who root for players when they get 'their' money. Our WRs sucks, we don't know how we gonna put points on the board and everyone is excited that a tackle collector just got paid. Wake me up when we sign Dez Bryant to this team.

Sign a guy that beats his mom?

Nah.

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PFF has a really nice piece which explains why Luke's dominance is about so much more than just his tackle stats. 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/09/10/why-luke-kuechly-is-one-of-nfls-best-lbs/

there have been paper bricks written about how shockingly fast he's become a great player and how we probably haven't seen his ceiling yet.  it really takes a special kind of ideology-driven denial to disagree with that.

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