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[Mr. Scot]

I stated I'm okay with what he has done with the O-Line.  He has done an okay job in that category.  I'm not saying their are star players out there, but there are def solid players out there not asking to destroy ones cap.  Some of them are backups and role players, but if you genuinely care about your offense.  Or receivers in this situation, you DO NOT go into the season one injury away from a catastrophe.  We did, and now we have the worst set of receivers in the NFL for our good, NOT GREAT QB to throw to.        

There are very few teams out there who aren't an injury or two away from being very thin at various positions.

People have this weird idea that somehow we're the only team who isn't three deep with star players.

[cbarrier90]

Ignoring = delayed effort.  Year 4 was the first Cam weapon added, year 5 we just drafted a second.  We don't even know both of these will be long term weapons yet. 

Could something of been done before adding a rookie year 4 and rookie year 5?  Absolutely.  Our franchise front office opted to build their team and put emphasis elsewhere during those years.  Offensive minded people and QB centric people will not agree w/ Carolina's blueprint for Cam. 

For example, did we need to go Star/KK?  Go we have been more well rounded w/ those picks? I'm sure a lot of GM's wouldn't of doubled down there.  Defensive minded ones might of.....others would have handled it different. 

10 GMs would have done the 2013 draft different if they were here....as an example.  You pretty can apply that to every draft and FA period.  So big picture, no, Carolina didn't have there hands tied and didn't have to add Cam's first weapon in year 4 (raw rookie).  Build could of happened sooner.

Some would argue we should of built around Cam immediately....it would have helped him grow faster.  Then come back and fix the defensive holes once Cam was ready to win now w/ all his weapons in place. 

 

This is what Grigson and Indy have done and you could argue they're a borderline playoff team just like us if they had to play a schedule with a majority of NFC teams. Outside of Denver find one quality win that team had last year.

Also consider the division. You don't beat Ryan and Brees by getting into shootouts with them. You defend them and run the ball down their throat taking advantage of their deficiencies on both lines because they spent so many resources on getting weapons to play "dome" football.

That has been the identity of the Panthers since the franchise started, and our best teams were teams built to play this style of football. We're not there yet, but you can definitely see where the roster is going.

[nctarheel0619]

There are very few teams out there who aren't an injury or two away from being very thin at various positions.

People have this weird idea that somehow we're the only team who isn't three deep with star players.

I don't want star players at that position, I just want quality depth.  If you look at our current receivers right now, and that doesn't scream mediocrity and YIKES.  I don't know what does.  Quality depth is something you have to incorporate over a period of time, sadly, we have decided not to do that for our WR position group.  Eventually we would pay for it, that has now happened.  

[nctarheel0619]

This is what Grigson and Indy have done and you could argue they're a borderline playoff team just like us if they had to play a schedule with a majority of NFC teams. Outside of Denver find one quality win that team had last year.

Also consider the division. You don't beat Ryan and Brees by getting into shootouts with them. You defend them and run the ball down their throat taking advantage of their deficiencies on both lines because they spent so many resources on getting weapons to play "dome" football.

That has been the identity of the Panthers since the franchise started, and our best teams were teams built to play this style of football. We're not there yet, but you can definitely see where the roster is going.

Yeah, we can't have Cam in a throwing offense at this point.  Maybe eventually down the road when he gets a bit more accuracy on his throws.   

[cbarrier90]

I don't want start players, I just want quality depth.  If you look at our current receivers right now, and that doesn't scream mediocrity and YIKES.  I don't know what does.  Quality depth is something you have to incorporate over a period of time, sadly, we have decided not to do that for our WR position group.  Eventually we would pay for it, that has now happened.  

So because ONE position group is deficient because of injuries, it's all a failure?

You're blaming a team's health, something out of everyone's control, on the GM. That's a flawed argument. It's just an unlucky break for us.

[Mr. Scot]

I don't want start players, I just want quality depth.  If you look at our current receivers right now, and that doesn't scream mediocrity and YIKES.  I don't know what does.  Quality depth is something you have to incorporate over a period of time, sadly, we have decided not to do that for our WR position group.  Eventually we would pay for it, that has now happened.  

You expected "quality depth" at every position in the third year of a GM's tenure?

There are GMs who have been around way longer than that and still don't have it because roster building is an extremely fluid process.

Take a few minutes to look at depth charts around the league. Maybe it'll help reset your expectations to a reasonable level.

[Carl Spackler]

Unrelated to the GM debate, I was watching highlights from our game against GB in 2011 and it made me wonder if Cam will ever have an arsenal comparable to what he had then in 89, Olsen and Shockey. I felt like with 89, LaFell at his best (slightly above mediocre) and two of the top 10 TEs in the game, Cam had the most weapons he'd ever had. Or maybe it was just Chud's offense. I liked Chud's offense. A lot. 

What I didn't like was the absolute refusal to adjust in-game. Against ATL, in a game I was at, we squandered a 23-7 lead and got out-scored 23-0 in the second half. Down just a TD late with 1st and 5 from their 30, deep ball. Second and 5, deep ball. Third and 5, deep ball. Fourth and 5, deep ball. Incomplete. Just fuging running it once or twice coupled with a drag or curl gets you the first down. That was just nonsense.

Maybe I didn't like Chud's offense a lot.

[nctarheel0619]

You expected "quality depth" at every position in the third year of a GM's tenure?

There are GMs who have been around way longer than that and still don't have it because roster building is an extremely fluid process.

Take a few minutes to look at depth charts around the league. Maybe it'll help reset your expectations to a reasonable level.

Green Bay has quality depth, Pats have quality depth, Dallas has quality depth as well.  My expectations aren't Earth shattering.  I don't expect everyone on the WR roster to be Randall Cobb 2.0.  I would take a Terrance Williams or two on the roster, or a Devonte Adams, or even a damn Dante Moncreif.  HAHA.     

[uncfan888]

There are very few teams out there who aren't an injury or two away from being very thin at various positions.

People have this weird idea that somehow we're the only team who isn't three deep with star players.

You need to give it up. He hates Gettleman 

[nctarheel0619]

You need to give it up. He hates Gettleman 

I don't hate him, I just think he could've done a better job at the WR position.  Nothing wrong with that.  

[uncfan888]

I don't hate him, I just think he could've done a better job at the WR position.  Nothing wrong with that.  

I know you well enough to know how you really feel haha 

[Mr. Scot]

I don't hate him, I just think he could've done a better job at the WR position.  Nothing wrong with that.  

He's been in place for three drafts, and in two of those three has taken a receiver with one of the top two picks.   He also re-signed a speedy receiver who had his best season here and got an undrafted free agent who, despite his struggles this preseason, looked pretty good last year.

What are you looking for here?  Matt Millen?

 

Green Bay has quality depth, Pats have quality depth, Dallas has quality depth as well.  My expectations aren't Earth shattering.  I don't expect everyone on the WR roster to be Randall Cobb 2.0.  I would take a Terrance Williams or two on the roster, or a Devonte Adams, or even a damn Dante Moncreif.  HAHA.     

Quality depth?

Patriots backups right now are Aaron Dobson and Matthew Slater.

Terrence Williams is living the Alvin Harper life right now.  Behind him are Devin Street and Cole Beasley.

The Packers probably have the best depth overall, but if it gets to the point of James Jones or Ty Montgomery starting, that's not good.  You know what else is not good though?  Their defensive depth.

But beyond that, in every example you cited, the team has had its management structure in place for way longer than three years.

Maybe you don't think that matters.  I assure you, it does.

And if you think more could have been done this season, by all means, say what.  just be aware, it's gonna need to be something better than "trade anything for a star player" or "sign (insert name of scrub that nobody else is signing either here)" for it to be taken seriously.

 

 

[nctarheel0619]

He's been in place for three drafts, and in two of those three has taken a receiver with one of the top two picks.   He also re-signed a speedy receiver who had his best season here and got an undrafted free agent who, despite his struggles this preseason, looked pretty good last year.

What are you looking for here?  Matt Millen?

 

Quality depth?

Patriots backups right now are Aaron Dobson and Matthew Slater.

Terrence Williams is living the Alvin Harper life right now.  Behind him are Devin Street and Cole Beasley.

The Packers probably have the best depth overall, but if it gets to the point of James Jones or Ty Montgomery starting, that's not good.  You know what else is not good though?  Their defensive depth.

But beyond that, in every example you cited, the team has had its management structure in place for way longer than three years.

Maybe you don't think that matters.  I assure you, it does.

And if you think more could have been done this season, by all means, say what.  just be aware, it's gonna need to be something better than "trade anything for a star player" or "sign (insert name of scrub that nobody else is signing either here)" for it to be taken seriously.

 

 

I would rather have any of the players you stated than what we have as starters right now.  I think signing a prime number 2 option would've sufficed this year.  Not too much, but it's something which is better than nothing.  Which is what we have right now.    

[Mr. Scot]

I would rather have any of the players you stated than what we have as starters right now.  I think signing a prime number 2 option would've sufficed this year.  Not too much, but it's something which is better than nothing.  Which is what we have right now.    

I think your judgment of just how good these guys are is a little off.

If you really believe guys like Ty Montgomery and Matthew Slater would make quality starters, you've got a pretty bad case of the "grass is greener' thinking going on.

By the way, our franchise quarterback and team leader on defense are now locked up secure for the next five years at reasonable prices that won't destroy our cap.

So would you like to talk again about how you'd do things differently as a GM?