Panthers Field Second Oldest Roster

[PandaPancake]

Durrr....

I'm dislexic...apparently.  

My dyslexia is better

[TheNewStandard]

It's nice knowing our stars are just now coming of age while we fill out the roster with proven veterans that bring leadership and knowledge to the team while understanding their role. I am not at all worried about this stat as not one of our building blocks are even close to retirement.

I feel the same way. We all know how Ron covets his veterans. 

Not to mention the fact that we have 2-Walter Payton Men of the Year on our squad. 

Just guessing, but most teams can't even boast having 1 player of such esteemed honor. 

Are there any other teams with 2-MOY?

[Ricky Spanish]

It's a bit misleading because so many of our Starters are under 30. Of our 11 Starters on offense, Olsen, Kalil and Ginn are the only guys over 30. Ginn should get an asterisk as a starter too because pending Benjamin's injury he's a number 3 at best. 

Defense, our over 30 guys are Davis, Tillman, and Harper. That's it. CJ, while he's been in the league forever, just turned 29 a few months ago. Dude is still in his prime. To give you all a percentage, 27% of our starting roster this year is over 30. That's not bad at all, and most likely won't be the case once the Funchise steps to take a starting receiver spot or another Safety steps in for Harper/Bene jumps Tillman. 

[TheNewStandard]

Actually, I do in a way. I'm helping keep this site that I frequent online. Even if it is for 5 dollars a month. To me, that's close to a days salary. To each their own and all that jazz. 

Jeremy and co. Do a great job and this is a great site and does great service to the Panther Fanbase as a whole. 

I spend more time on this site than any other website. So thanks to all who contribute to this Forum.

[TheNewStandard]

KB not being on the active roster makes us look older too. 

Cant believe Ginn is over 30. He probably has the fewest snaps of any other top-3 WR starter in the league. That has to count for something. He really doesn't have much tread-wear on those tires.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Stewart has less carries than any other 28+ year old starting running back in the league as well.

[TheNewStandard]

If Gettleman can continue drafting 3 or 4 starters every year, as he continues to trim the fat, there's no way this team doesn't have a huge injection of youth as the older guys continue to be replaced and hopefully upgraded.

[the butch]

It was mentioned in a recent article that Gettleman has made it a focus to add playoff experience.  It would make sense that our age across the board has risen.  You say age, I say experience.

 

Now, as the Panthers prepare to face the Jaguars in their season opener, they could have as many as 105 playoff appearances among their 22 projected starters, with 50 wins, five Super Bowl appearances and three titles.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article34007406.html#storylink=cpy

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article34007406.html

[KB_fan]

I really find it hard to believe this team is that old, compared to the rest of the league.

the upside here is that most of our best players are either still on rookie contracts or just coming into their first post-rookie contracts. 

Yeah, that stat caught me by surprise given the numbers of rookies who made our roster last year.  I'll try to dig a bit more deeply into the age and experience data by offense / defense and/or position groups and look at year by year comparisons for the past 4 - 5 years.

It might also be worth comparing the total roster age average to the starters age average and see how that compares with other teams in the league, but to do that I'll wait for the 1st games to be played and the starting rosters to become clear.

[KB_fan]

Here's our players (current 53 man roster) in order of date of birth, oldest to youngest.

#	Player	Pos.	DOB	Age
91	Cole, Colin	NT	06/24/1980	35
31	Tillman, Charles	CB	02/23/1981	34
92	Edwards, Dwan	DT	05/16/1981	34
82	Cotchery, Jerricho	WR	06/16/1982	33
41	Harper, Roman	SS	12/11/1982	32
58	Davis, Thomas	OLB	03/22/1983	32
3	Anderson, Derek	QB	06/15/1983	32
88	Olsen, Greg	TE	03/11/1985	30
67	Kalil, Ryan	OC	03/29/1985	30
19	Ginn, Ted	WR	04/12/1985	30
35	Tolbert, Mike	FB	11/23/1985	29
44	Jansen, JJ	LS	01/20/1986	29
73	Oher, Michael	OT	05/28/1986	29
95	Johnson, Charles	DE	07/10/1986	29
47	Brockel, Richie	FB	07/24/1986	29
14	Webb, Joe	QB	11/14/1986	28
61	Love, Kyle	DT	11/18/1986	28
28	Stewart, Jonathan	RB	03/21/1987	28
9	Gano, Graham	PK	04/09/1987	28
84	Dickson, Ed	TE	07/25/1987	28
79	Scott, Chris	OG	08/04/1987	28
97	Addison, Mario	DE	09/06/1987	27
86	Williams, Brandon	TE	10/12/1987	27
42	Jones, Colin	FS	10/27/1987	27
24	Norman, Josh	CB	12/15/1987	27
53	Jacobs, Ben	MLB	04/17/1988	27
20	Coleman, Kurt	FS	07/01/1988	27
21	Williams, Teddy	CB	07/03/1988	27
66	Silatolu, Amini	OG	09/16/1988	26
99	Short, Kawann	DT	02/02/1989	26
43	Whittaker, Fozzy	RB	02/02/1989	26
74	Remmers, Mike	OT	04/11/1989	26
1	Newton, Cam	QB	05/11/1989	26
78	Chandler, Nate	DT	06/01/1989	26
8	Nortman, Brad	P	09/12/1989	25
81	Norwood, Kevin	WR	09/23/1989	25
98	Lotulelei, Star	NT	12/20/1989	25
96	Horton, Wes	DE	01/18/1990	25
34	Artis-Payne, Cameron	RB	06/23/1990	25
32	Wegher, Brandon	RB	12/09/1990	24
59	Kuechly, Luke	MLB	04/20/1991	24
56	Klein, AJ	OLB	07/30/1991	24
25	Benwikere, Bene'	CB	09/03/1991	23
68	Norwell, Andrew	OG	10/25/1991	23
10	Brown, Corey	WR	12/16/1991	23
94	Ealy, Kony	DE	12/21/1991	23
33	Boston, Tre	FS	06/25/1992	23
29	Marlowe, Dean	FS	07/25/1992	23
60	Williams, Daryl	OT	08/31/1992	22
70	Turner, Trai	OG	06/14/1993	22
55	Mayo, David	IB	08/18/1993	22
54	Thompson, Shaq	OB	04/21/1994	21
17	Funchess, Devin	WR	05/21/1994	21

I verified the average age for this group right now is 27.37

[TheNewStandard]

Yeah, that stat caught me by surprise given the numbers of rookies who made our roster last year.  I'll try to dig a bit more deeply into the age and experience data by offense / defense and/or position groups and look at year by year comparisons for the past 4 - 5 years.

It might also be worth comparing the total roster age average to the starters age average and see how that compares with other teams in the league, but to do that I'll wait for the 1st games to be played and the starting rosters to become clear.

it's comforting to know that Indy is the oldest because they are super bowl contenders and don't have nearly the quality of defense compared to the Panthers. 

They have an aging O-line and a below average defense with little to no ground game if my memory serves me correctly. 

If if all that age of theirs is on the O-line, mister Luck and Indy could become Philip Rivers and the Chargers over his career...as in, good enough to make the playoffs every year, but getting bad draft position and second-rate talent to replace their aging and retiring vets.

[KB_fan]

Here's a list of players on our roster acquired since the beginning of last season (in order of acquisition - newest first)

Player	Pos.	Age	CAR acquired	How acquired
Norwood, Kevin	WR	25	09/01/15	Trade
Wegher, Brandon	RB	24	05/08/15	UDFA
Marlowe, Dean	FS	23	05/08/15	UDFA
Artis-Payne, Cameron	RB	25	05/02/15	Draft
Williams, Daryl	OT	22	05/02/15	Draft
Mayo, David	IB	22	05/02/15	Draft
Funchess, Devin	WR	21	05/01/15	Draft
Thompson, Shaq	OB	21	04/30/15	Draft
Tillman, Charles	CB	34	04/09/15	FA
Coleman, Kurt	FS	27	03/16/15	FA
Williams, Teddy	CB	27	03/13/15	FA
Ginn, Ted	WR	30	03/09/15	FA
Oher, Michael	OT	29	03/06/15	FA
Love, Kyle	DT	28	12/15/14	FA
Remmers, Mike	OT	26	10/28/14	FA

CAP & Wegher are older than many rookies...

The average age for all these newly acquired players 26.06 years.  We had a much smaller rookie class than most teams. 

Tillman, Ginn & Oher also obviously pull the average up.

I'll calculate average age for offense vs. defense next.

Although the news of our being the 2nd oldest roster surprised me, I think it's not a bad thing.  Gettleman specifically mentioned in his comments related to building the 53 man roster in the past few days that he was aiming to add some experience to the roster last year and this year.  He saw how our inexperience hurt us in the SF playoff game.

I'll see if I can find the quote I'm remembering...

[CRA]

League wide....we seem to be older at some positions where a lot of teams are holding youth.  Take our HBs, Atlanta as a random example,  has 3 HBs younger than our youngest. 

We don't have youth stashed at TE

Little things like that add up in this.  Doesn't matter, in an offseason any team can swing either direction.

 

 

 

  

 

[KB_fan]

Average Age Offense:  27.2

Average Age Defense:  27.5

Average Age Specialists 28.0

[TheNewStandard]

Here's a list of players on our roster acquired since the beginning of last season (in order of acquisition - newest first)

Player	Pos.	Age	CAR acquired	How acquired
Norwood, Kevin	WR	25	09/01/15	Trade
Wegher, Brandon	RB	24	05/08/15	UDFA
Marlowe, Dean	FS	23	05/08/15	UDFA
Artis-Payne, Cameron	RB	25	05/02/15	Draft
Williams, Daryl	OT	22	05/02/15	Draft
Mayo, David	IB	22	05/02/15	Draft
Funchess, Devin	WR	21	05/01/15	Draft
Thompson, Shaq	OB	21	04/30/15	Draft
Tillman, Charles	CB	34	04/09/15	FA
Coleman, Kurt	FS	27	03/16/15	FA
Williams, Teddy	CB	27	03/13/15	FA
Ginn, Ted	WR	30	03/09/15	FA
Oher, Michael	OT	29	03/06/15	FA
Love, Kyle	DT	28	12/15/14	FA
Remmers, Mike	OT	26	10/28/14	FA

...

if you add last season's rookies, that is a huge injection of youth and talent. Not just talent, but starting-caliber talent. There's gonna be a big turnover once Tolbert, CJ, Cotchery, Harper and Stewart come off the books. Tillman may retire after this season. We could draft BPA in any order of DE, T, S, RB, WR next year looking strictly for speed and size and we've got a juggernaut for the next 5-6 years.