Panthers, Pack, & the difference in reactions to the injury of a WR1

[PntherPryd]

I don't think reactions are all that different.

 

Right after I heard I went to their boards and wished them a great season.

 

 

[top dawg]

to be clear though, we are talking about a rookie who has never played in a regular season NFL game right

edit: whoops, looks like he's played an entire season and has barely compiled a stat!  silly me

the guy was a 7th rounder from a division II school.  aren't we all furious with gettledouche for surrounding cam with late round scrubs and UDFAs from podunk U?

What does that matter? It still doesn't invalidate what I would have liked as opposed to what we did.  I am not furious at Gettleman for anything (though I was miffed as to why he drafted an RB at the time, just like I was shaking my head when he picked Mayo this year (who would have been a UDFA). But, let's be clear, I like Gman's overall job, but I don't think that he has been perfect, and why someone would is just beyond me. But, to each his own. In my opinion, the WR position should have been handled differently since he has been GM. This is my opinion regardless of all the reasons why his apologists irrationally jump to his defense at the first hint that someone would dare question his imperfection.

I can like Gettleman, respect his decisions, knowledge, overall plan, and all that stuff, but I can also express doubts about some of the decisions that he has made simultaneously. Does it literally mean that he was wrong and I am right? No, not necessarily (and vice versa). It's just a difference---possibly even as little as a tweak---in philosophy.

Frankly, if people feel the need to constantly defend Gettleman's every move, or tear down his every move, then it just shows me that they are more agenda driven than being real. 

[t96]

Monday morning GM here.

[top dawg]

It's called being a fan.

[GoobyPls]

Sometimes I forget just just how incredibly poor your football knowledge is, but then you post something and I'm reminded.

I'm not going to bother trying to explain how BPA works to you. You've already shown you don't have the capacity to get it.

We're building for the long term, kid. Maybe by the time you grow up (assuming that actually happens) you'll see it.

You don't know football, BPA, future, grow up LMAO You spews the same garbage in every comment, cause you know you no argument. I forgot how great Klien, Barner and Gaffney were for us all gem picks by Gettleman the master of offense. Those 7 wins last year prove it

[Panthers8969]

if we had cobb and adams as the backups it'd be a whole different story, so yeah no surprise there. Plus the whole winning culture thing

[Mr. Scot]

You don't know football, BPA, future, grow up LMAO You spews the same garbage in every comment, cause you know you no argument. I forgot how great Klien, Barner and Gaffney were for us all gem picks by Gettleman the master of offense. Those 7 wins last year prove it

Klein is still on the team kid.  In fact, he's starting at strongside linebacker right now (i.e., not on offense).

And two straight division titles, so try again.

(or don't; you're really not very good at this)

[CPantherKing]

Klein is still on the team kid.  In fact, he's starting at strongside linebacker right now (i.e., not on offense).

And two straight division titles, so try again.

(or don't; you're really not very good at this)

Klein is a liability and teams go after him because of that. Same with Kony Ealy. Klein and Ealy are going to be targeted all season long if they start. Writing is on the wall and they both have the same tendencies of over pursuit and widening their gaps which they have been unable to shake.

If you line Roman Harper up behind Klein and Ealy, it will be audible city with a TE in motion to Klein's side and split the RB out wide to pull Luke if it is man.

I guarantee you I know where the options, counters and cut back runs are going.

You could put an offense at their own 1 yard line, and I still like the offense's chances against the area of the field defended by Ealy, Klein, and Harper.

I would much rather play Short at DE and Rotate the DTs with Ealy at DT on 3rd down. Thompson or Tillman stacked on the outside shoulder of the OT.

Knowing Rivera, he will try to make Ealy and Klein work, but after teams eat that up in their game plan he will revert to the best players on the field by week 6 or 7.

[glo]

Klein is a liability and teams go after him because of that. Same with Kony Ealy. Klein and Ealy are going to be targeted all season long if they start. Writing is on the wall and they both have the same tendencies of over pursuit and widening their gaps which they have been unable to shake.

If you line Roman Harper up behind Klein and Ealy, it will be audible city with a TE in motion to Klein's side and split the RB out wide to pull Luke if it is man.

I guarantee you I know where the options, counters and cut back runs are going.

You could put an offense at their own 1 yard line, and I still like the offense's chances against the area of the field defended by Ealy, Klein, and Harper.

I would much rather play Short at DE and Rotate the DTs with Ealy at DT on 3rd down. Thompson or Tillman stacked on the outside shoulder of the OT.

Knowing Rivera, he will try to make Ealy and Klein work, but after teams eat that up in their game plan he will revert to the best players on the field by week 6 or 7.

Ealy is fuging fine. Seriously, your acting like he's totally incapable.

[GoobyPls]

Klein is still on the team kid.  In fact, he's starting at strongside linebacker right now (i.e., not on offense).

And two straight division titles, so try again.

(or don't; you're really not very good at this)

LMAO Klein sucks, nice job avoiding Barner and Gaffney

 

2013 we won with mainly Hurney players, and 2014 we had 7 wins, you take pride in a 7 win season? That's whats wrong with your mentality.

[Mr. Scot]

LMAO Klein sucks, nice job avoiding Barner and Gaffney

2013 we won with mainly Hurney players, and 2014 we had 7 wins, you take pride in a 7 win season? That's whats wrong with your mentality.

Aaahhh, no.

Gaffney's problem was injury.  For those of us who actually know real football rather than Madden, we know injury doesn't make a draft pick bad.

Barner? He's a sixth rounder that didn't stick. Again, for those of us who know the game, not a big deal. Happens plenty, and to every team.

What's funniest about that though is that you turn around from mentioning that to trumpet Marty Hurney. So basically, you're complaining about a guy whose 5th to 7th round picks haven't stuck around while citing as good a guy whose second and third round picks didn't stick around.

Top it all off by saying that we won in 2013 with Hurney players when Gettleman remade the roster for that year. Now if you want to see you a year that was all Hurney players, look back at 2010. Heck, or 11 and 12 for that matter; years where we won only 6 and 7 games each and did not win the division or qualify for the playoffs (which apparently you think is a superior accomplishment).

Like I said, you're not very good at this.

[Snake]

If we had won a Super Bowl and been a constant playoff team and contender every year under Rivera/Cam then the media would be shrugging off KB's loss. It's just how your regular average joe views different franchises. We've typically sucked so we're an afterthought to John Doe (who the national media's target is) while the Packers have been consistently good and won a Super Bowl, so people typically think of them as a great team. Just is what it is. 

Yea I doubt that. We have had good success the past two years and its the same old dribble. Even if we win the SB the next year we will be picked to be a 7-9 team while the Cowboys are picked to go to the SB. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

NFLN's blunder earlier today where they wrongly made a reference to jarrett boykin still being a packer is a good example of that

it painted a much rosier picture of boykin stepping up into a bigger role in the absence of green bay's top receiver

[GoobyPls]

Aaahhh, no.

Gaffney's problem was injury.  For those of us who actually know real football rather than Madden, we know injury doesn't make a draft pick bad.

Barner? He's a sixth rounder that didn't stick. Again, for those of us who know the game, not a big deal. Happens plenty, and to every team.

What's funniest about that though is that you turn around from mentioning that to trumpet Marty Hurney. So basically, you're complaining about a guy whose 5th to 7th round picks haven't stuck around while citing as good a guy whose second and third round picks didn't stick around.

Top it all off by saying that we won in 2013 with Hurney players when Gettleman remade the roster for that year. Now if you want to see you a year that was all Hurney players, look back at 2010. Heck, or 11 and 12 for that matter; years where we won only 6 and 7 games each and did not win the division or qualify for the playoffs (which apparently you think is a superior accomplishment).

Like I said, you're not very good at this.

Gaffney's problem was that we should of never drafted him to begin with.

6th round pick that could of been a guard or receiver an upgrade over what we had starting last year. Most which were UDFA

LMAO you think I believe Hurney is a good GM? Hurney has always been trash and I criticize him for the same reason I'm criticizing Gettleman. Mostly drafted defense, never signed big name free agents, never made trades, sound familiar?

You know what Gettleman has going for him? Cam. Cam can make Gettleman look like a genius cause he's that good. You credit Gettleman for signing mediocre players like Ginn when in reality Cam is the one making Ginn relevant

 

And in 2013 it was mainly Hurney players, who did DG bring in? we would have drafted Star either way cause Rivera was dead set in getting a DT. Outside of Michelle basically every starter was on the roster already before DG came. WTF are you even talking about

 

I can only imagine how much you protected Hurney before he was fired