Panthers, Pack, & the difference in reactions to the injury of a WR1

[CPantherKing]

The difference is 28 draft picks over the past 3 drafts for the Packers compared to 16 draft picks for the Panthers.

In the past 3 drafts, they have drafted the following offensive skill players: Ty Montgomery, Kennard Backman, Aaron Ripkowski, Davante Adams, Richard Rodgers, Jared Abbrederis, Jeff Janis, Eddie Lacy, and Kevin Dorsey. They also drafted and then had to cut Charles Johnson who is now a starting receiver for the Vikings. Meanwhile, they retained Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson from previous drafts.

Aaron Rodgers has been able to work on developing the offense with all of them.

The Panthers have given Cam Newton the following offensive skill players over the past 3 drafts: Devin Funchess, Cameron Artis-Payne, and Kelvin Benjamin. Meanwhile, they passed on retaining Steve Smith and Brandon LaFell.

When one drafted receiver goes down and the other is a rookie with an injury, that leaves you with unproven udfas and journeymen at receiver. The Packers could have 3 of their receivers go down for the season and they are still okay.

This is what separates the GMs who know how to use the draft to build a contender and the GMs who leverage their future by throwing picks away in hopes of being a contender late in the season.

The Panthers will ride or die on young undrafted offensive skill players. Makes for a crazy season, but it will always be the reason the Panthers will struggle to defeat teams like the Packers, Seahawks, Patriots, and Steelers in the playoffs.

The Panthers could easily have a young stable of talented WRs if they used the draft properly over the past few drafts like the Packers and Steelers.

[Peppers90 NC]

McCarthy is an offensive coach, so they put a premium on drafting offensive players. Not to mention they were able to land very good WRs in the 3rd rounds and later and they have a QB that extends plays in the pocket and makes his WRs better.

Ron is a defensive coach and we put a premium on defensive players in the draft. Haven't had much luck developing receivers the last 5-8 years.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Yeah, that would have been nice. It's the lower guys we missed out on too, like the ones the Packers got in Jared Abbrederis and Jeff Janis.  

I would have loved to have gotten Tre Mcbride or Dezmin Lewis in this year's draft

abbrederis and janis have a combined career 2 rec for 16 yds between them

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

The difference is 28 draft picks over the past 3 drafts for the Packers compared to 16 draft picks for the Panthers.

In the past 3 drafts, they have drafted the following offensive skill players: Ty Montgomery, Kennard Backman, Aaron Ripkowski, Davante Adams, Richard Rodgers, Jared Abbrederis, Jeff Janis, Eddie Lacy, and Kevin Dorsey. They also drafted and then had to cut Charles Johnson who is now a starting receiver for the Vikings. Meanwhile, they retained Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson from previous drafts.

Aaron Rodgers has been able to work on developing the offense with all of them.

dude seriously

more than half those guys are either rookies or have barely even compiled a career stat

[Zaximus]

Well when you have the best QB in the league you don't get too worried.  He's the type of QB that makes others better.

I'm sure having a legit offensive coaching staff probably helps too, which we don't.

[top dawg]

abbrederis and janis have a combined career 2 rec for 16 yds between them

What are you trying to say?

That's what happens when the roster is loaded with talent. People with potential sit on the bench. The Packers obviously thought enough of them to invest in them. Hell, they cut Charles Johnson who proved himself to be a gamer in Minny. Just because a receiver is on the bench due to depth or injury hardly makes him a wash. They should get more opportunities this season to prove why the Packers acquired them. 

[juliosantos]

packers are one of the deepest teams at wr 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

What are you trying to say?

That's what happens when the roster is loaded with talent. People with potential sit on the bench. The Packers obviously thought enough of them to invest in them. Hell, they cut Charles Johnson who proved himself to be a gamer in Minny. Just because a receiver is on the bench due to depth or injury hardly makes him a wash. They should get more opportunities this season to prove why the Packers acquired them. 

i'm saying you're jumping the gun a bit

[Mr. Scot]

The Gettleman cronie right on Q, and  blaming Hurney like always. Its like Bush and Obama no matter what Obama does Bush gets the blame.

2014 draft was a perfect example of Gettleman incompetence when it comes to drafting offense. Named the deepest wide receiver class ever, a team that let go of every single receiver on theirs roster PICKS ONE, just one. When everyone and there mother knew we needed 2 or 3. Stop with the excuses already 

 

What I would give to see Martvis Bryant or Moncrief with Kelvin. Gettleman completely shat the bed 

Sometimes I forget just just how incredibly poor your football knowledge is, but then you post something and I'm reminded.

I'm not going to bother trying to explain how BPA works to you. You've already shown you don't have the capacity to get it.

We're building for the long term, kid. Maybe by the time you grow up (assuming that actually happens) you'll see it.

[top dawg]

i'm saying you're jumping the gun a bit

Not at all. All I am saying is that I would have liked to have one of them. I would have particularly have loved Jeff Janis as he was the taller, more athletic, faster guy, and we could have made that happen had we not reached for an RB of all things.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Not at all. All I am saying is that I would have liked to have one of them. I would have particularly have loved Jeff Janis as he was the taller, more athletic, faster guy, and we could have made that happen had we not reached for an RB of all things.

to be clear though, we are talking about a rookie who has never played in a regular season NFL game right

edit: whoops, looks like he's played an entire season and has barely compiled a stat!  silly me

the guy was a 7th rounder from a division II school.  he's basically brenton bersin.  aren't we all supposedly furious with gettledouche for surrounding cam with late round scrubs and UDFAs from podunk U?  i mean if janis was seriously up for playing time in 2015 because of kelvin's injury i think this site would be as just as pissed off.

 

[strik9]

Lots of good points in this thread. I feel Gettleman has done a good job of building based on cams abilities and defficiencies. Tried to improve o line giving Cam the chance to be physical, while drafting receivers to cover Cams tendency to over throw. All while sticking to Carolinas strong Defensive philosophy.

[TheRed]

to be clear though, we are talking about a rookie who has never played in a regular season NFL game right

edit: whoops, looks like he's played an entire season and has barely compiled a stat!  silly me

the guy was a 7th rounder from a division II school.  he's basically brenton bersin.  aren't we all supposedly furious with gettledouche for surrounding cam with late round scrubs and UDFAs from podunk U?  i mean if janis was seriously up for playing time in 2015 because of kelvin's injury i think this site would be as just as pissed off.

 

Hate to say it, top dawg is a good dude, but his track record with no name WR's he's hitched his wagon to over the years is pretty bad.

They all are either medicore at best, or currently playing in the CFL.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

i think it's getting a bit ridiculous to say gettleman doesn't know how to draft offense or doesn't care about that side of the ball.  big contracts were given to a quarterback and pro bowl tight end this offseason and high picks have been spent on wide receivers two drafts in a row.  the offensive line which everybody was freaking out about has been methodically rebuilt and is starting to look like a borderline strength.  everything on offense starts with the OL.  you are done if you can't protect the quarterback and it doesn't matter what the skill positions look like.

it boils down to people being mad that gettleman hasn't taken a spray and pray approach at a particular position group.