2015 Training Camp Awards

[caatfan]

Standout Newcomer: Oher

Best Rookie: Daryl Williams

But that can't be. I keep hearing that our OL still sucks and Gettleman is doing nothing to improve it. 

[Davidson Deac II]

Three offensive linemen got mentioned.  Can't help but like that. 

[the_philosopher]

Rivera played 7 rookies in the playoffs last year and has shown he will play the best players.  If Harper is starting he will be the best we have at that position hands down. That is plain to anyone but people with a story and preconceived agenda.

I disagree. Harper looked physically outmatched on the field last year. If he starts, it's because of his "veteran leadership," which I do think Rivera puts too much emphasis on. Many of the rookies getting playing time at the end of the year were in because Rivera was forced to by injuries and bad play. But it took too long in my opinion. Let's not forget, for just one example, how long Josh Norman rode the pine because of his "inexperience." We missed out on pretty much all of his team-friendly rookie contract years in order to watch guys like Cason be "experienced."

[KSpan]

Yes. From now on every camp mvp will be out for the season. It'll be a new Panther tradition.

The last 2 were Armanti and Frank, so in a way this is the third year in a row.

[Jeremy Igo]

The last 2 were Armanti and Frank, so in a way this is the third year in a row.

Those were Rivera's MVPs... not the huddle's. 

 

 

[Captain Morgan]

I disagree. Harper looked physically outmatched on the field last year. If he starts, it's because of his "veteran leadership," which I do think Rivera puts too much emphasis on. Many of the rookies getting playing time at the end of the year were in because Rivera was forced to by injuries and bad play. But it took too long in my opinion. Let's not forget, for just one example, how long Josh Norman rode the pine because of his "inexperience." We missed out on pretty much all of his team-friendly rookie contract years in order to watch guys like Cason be "experienced."

Norman was benched because he was free lancing and not doing his job.  Now that he is doing his job he is having success.  It didn't have anything to do with Rivera playing an experienced player over him.  It had everything to do with Norman not doing what he was told.

[the_philosopher]

Those were Rivera's MVPs... not the huddle's. 

 

 

Unless he uses those pronouncements as some sort of bizarre motivational ploy, we really ought to be concerned about his player evaluations more generally. Armanti is MVP, and Roman Harper deserves to start.

[the_philosopher]

 

Norman was benched because he was free lancing and not doing his job.  Now that he is doing his job he is having success.  It didn't have anything to do with Rivera playing an experienced player over him.  It had everything to do with Norman not doing what he was told.

In my opinion, that kind of junk should only last a couple games when the other guys are outmatched. You have to play your potential.

By the way, I doubt Norman is a new man. I'd say there's a good chance he could blow a game for us this season. But he's too talented relative to the other options to sit on the bench, and he was all those games he was on the bench.

Edited August 21, 2015 by the_philosopher

[Wundrbread33]

Panthers.com writer (and friend of the Huddle) Max Henson gives some solid insight here....

 

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/2015-Training-Camp-Awards/802035ec-580f-48bc-928b-e3ede924c71e

 

Definitely worth your clicks to read his analysis. 

 

Here is my take on his picks.... 

 

Offensive MVP: KB

No question. KB looked primed for an All-Pro year. 

Defensive MVP: Luke

Can't argue this. 

Standout Newcomer: Oher

Oher started shaky but finished strong as he acclimated to the left. Hard to argue this. But I might give the nod to Peanut Tillman also who forced many a fumble and looked solid all camp. 

Most Improved: Corey Brown

Corey did improve over last camp, that is for sure. I am tempted to give this to Josh Norman though who is really coming into his own. 

Pleasent Surprise: Kurt Coleman

Can't argue here. Coleman is this year's Mike Mitchell, but perhaps even better. 

Hustle Award: Norwell and Todman 

Yep and Yep. Norwell is always running to the ball downfield. Go watch the last preseason game again. The guy has a motor. 

I have been preaching Todman for weeks now. The guy is going to really turn heads this year. 

 

I would also add....

Best Rookie: 

Daryl Williams - As of today, Williams has stood out as the most consistent rookie on the field in addition to playing at a very high level. Only a matter of time folks.... 

 

 

 

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Daryl Williams was a guy I watching in college. I always kept my eye on Oklahoma since they always kicked my Mizzou Tigers in the face every time they played. Lots of talent.

Getting Williams where we did was amazing. Huge, powerful man who performed at a high level at a big school and had a good combine. He would dominate ends in college. The negative every "scout" seemed to focus on was "slow foot speed, most likely a guard at the next level" even though he dominated at the tackle position and demonstrated solid foot speed in workouts. He was a team leader and had everyone's respect, and on top of it, he plays with a mean streak.

I just don't see why he fell so far.

[Oldschool Leroy]

I was able to see the first two weeks of camp. (just a fan's perspective). I would just give Luke an honorary distinction, since he is kinda in a different world.

I would then vote Josh Norman defensive, MVP.

 

 

[frash.exe]

 

That KB part

 

[Donald LaFell]

Gonna take me a while to get over KB, damn!

[Captain Morgan]

In my opinion, that kind of junk should only last a couple games when the other guys are outmatched. You have to play your potential.

By the way, I doubt Norman is a new man. I'd say there's a good chance he could blow a game for us this season. But he's too talented relative to the other options to sit on the bench, and he was all those games he was on the bench.

 I think he learned his lesson and that is why he is blooming.  Either way we'll find out this year for sure, and I'm leaning towards him having a very good year, possibly so good we can't afford him.  He's a baller, he was covering Smitty so well in his rookie training camp that he was trash talking him, but his play on the field was why he got sat.  As he matured and learned his role, he and the  team got better.  I know RR likes veterans, but there is a reason for that...veterans know their role.

[Cary Kollins]

I felt a physical kick in my stomach on the KB part.