This "running game" everyone keeps bringing up

[Smithers]

Cam still needs the coaches to let him...

will Shula let Cam go shotgun no huddle often and early or will he wait until we are 2-5?

 Valid point.  Cam does much better when given the freedom to change the play at the line like he did frequently toward the end of the season last year.  I certainly hope they allow him to continue doing that starting week 1.  

[NavyPF4L]

Who ever said this WR as deep was lying to themselves, none if these guys would start in any other team. We had a weak receiving core with Kelvin now we have the worst. If they produce its due to Cam's greatness point blank period.

 

Hurney was another play it safe GM, no free agents, no trades and always drafting defense. Sounds familiar?

Gooby.. Please don't take this the wrong way but.. You really have no clue what you're talking about here do you.. You might be better suited for a team like the Falcon's and the Bucs that always make big FA moves.. God knows look how far its gotten them.. Too bad we aren't more like them am I right?

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

i mean i'm by no means saying that making moves in free agency and the occasional logical trade is always bad.  it's certainly worked out for us at least once as our pro bowl tight end was acquired in a trade.

it comes at a price though.  thanks to the rookie wage scale the draft is a great way to fill out your team with cheap, productive talent.  a team like the panthers that's trying to get its cap cleaned up in order to be active in free agency and extend our own star players down the road can't throw draft picks away.  that's because our current model thrives on value, which is to say young players like bene, norwell, turner, star, kk, kuechly (though he won't be cheap for much longer), and yes kelvin benjamin playing well above their cap figures and enabling us to compete.

[CRA]

I love people saying that Cam cant take punishment or that the read option will cause him to take too much pounding.  Who exactly do you think decides if he wants to hand the ball off on the read option or run it himself?  That would be Newton.  Sure the defense dictates some of that but if Newton doesnt want to take a pounding, he can just hand off the ball, throw it away or change the play.  Truth is that most times he calls his own number and wants to run the ball.  If he isnt worried about himself then why should we???

I think Newton feels safest and most in control in shotgun zone read looks.

people worried about Newton running need to get over it.  It is what he is and that dynamic mismatch is ultimately what makes him special 

[tiger7_88]

We don't have a single starting caliber NFL WR.  Sorry to break it to you, but Cam is gonna have to totally carry the offense.

Again.

[tiger7_88]

I love people saying that Cam cant take punishment or that the read option will cause him to take too much pounding.  Who exactly do you think decides if he wants to hand the ball off on the read option or run it himself?  That would be Newton.  Sure the defense dictates some of that but if Newton doesnt want to take a pounding, he can just hand off the ball, throw it away or change the play. 

I've mostly agreed with you in this thread, but what you said above is spectacularly incorrect.

Cam isn't deciding who gets the ball on the read option using his personal preference or randome choice.  He's deciding it be using the READ part of the read option.

With regard to the read option, the defense doesn't dictate "some" of that... the defense dictates ALL of that.  If you're not reading the DE on that play to determine who gets the ball, you're doing it wrong and being self-destructive on offense.  

(Now that doesn't mean that he makes the correct read every time.  Even the best at the read option play (and Cam is one of the best) get it wrong regularly.  That's the nature of having to make split-second decisions.)

[MadHatter]

Damn many of you sound like morons.

We went from having a very deep WR group this year to no NFL caliber WR's just because KB went down.

We went from "we are a SB contender" to we are going to win 6 games just because KB went down.

We went from "Gettleman is a genius" back to "Gettleman Sucks" just because KB went down.

 

You guys are like a bunch of prepubescent little girls.

[PantherRN]

Damn many of you sound like morons.

We went from having a very deep WR group this year to no NFL caliber WR's just because KB went down.

We went from "we are a SB contender" to we are going to win 6 games just because KB went down.

We went from "Gettleman is a genius" back to "Gettleman Sucks" just because KB went down.

 

You guys are like a bunch of prepubescent little girls.

This post sums up the state of the Huddle perfectly. I wish I could pie this more then once. 

[sharkkiller]

This post sums up the state of the Huddle perfectly. I wish I could pie this more then once. 

I pied your post, just because I couldn't pie the one you pied more than once. Pie.

[MadHatter]

This post sums up the state of the Huddle perfectly. I wish I could pie this more then once. 

Here is what everyone is forgetting.....Funchess.

Dude runs better routes and is way more fluid than KB.  He still has the size.  He is faster than KB.

Now, would I love to have him and KB on the field together?  Absolutely.

But, with him in a primary role, I fully expect numbers just as good as KB has last year.  Then throw in Ginn, Brown (non rookie), Bersin (more experience), etc.  and our WR corp iIS better than last year.

[panthers55]

 

Again.

And that is crap.  Funchess is as much a starting quality WR as Benjamin was at this point last year.   

 

I've mostly agreed with you in this thread, but what you said above is spectacularly incorrect.

Cam isn't deciding who gets the ball on the read option using his personal preference or randome choice.  He's deciding it be using the READ part of the read option.

With regard to the read option, the defense doesn't dictate "some" of that... the defense dictates ALL of that.  If you're not reading the DE on that play to determine who gets the ball, you're doing it wrong and being self-destructive on offense.  

(Now that doesn't mean that he makes the correct read every time.  Even the best at the read option play (and Cam is one of the best) get it wrong regularly.  That's the nature of having to make split-second decisions.)

The defense dictates what we do on the read option just as much as on any other play but Cam totally decides what he is going to do before and during the play.  For example the read means you key most times off the defensive end but that just determines if you take the dive option or not.  Once Cam has the ball and decides to keep it he still has the option to run himself, pitch the ball or throw it. Plus if he sees a blitz coming from the left side for example he can change the play and run it to the the other side or call something else before the ball is even snapped.  So given that the offense on any play keys in on certain defenders, the read option is no different from a passing play where we decide to throw to one receiver over another based on coverage.  It is called taking what the defense gives you and we do it hopefully on every play.   

[LinvilleGorge]

Didn't have one at the start of last year.  How'd that turn out?  Someone stepped up.

KB had 6 catches for 92 yards and a TD in first regular season game.  He had his first 100 yard game in his 3rd regular season game.  He was a legit starter from day one.

[motocross_cat]

You can't be serious, you think the owner who just paid 100 mill wants to see him get hit like a RB?

 

 

I dont look at it like everyone else.  He diddnt get a check to be a poster boy, he got a check to win football games.  If it takes him running alittle more so be it.  I mean when u get a raise at work it it doesnt mean you get to start slacking off does it?  Do i want him to run all the time? Hell no. Do i want us to win football games?  Hell yea!

[Davidson Deac II]

Here is what everyone is forgetting.....Funchess.

Dude runs better routes and is way more fluid than KB.  He still has the size.  He is faster than KB.

Now, would I love to have him and KB on the field together?  Absolutely.

But, with him in a primary role, I fully expect numbers just as good as KB has last year.  Then throw in Ginn, Brown (non rookie), Bersin (more experience), etc.  and our WR corp iIS better than last year.

I hope you are right about Funchess, but I will have to see him in real games before I am ready to agree.