Luke's Contract Talks are Heating up

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

I'm not holding my breath, but if we lock up the keystones on both offense and defense for the next 5 years in one offseason, well....it just might be alright, after all.

[Mr. Scot]

...it just might be alright, after all.

Heh :)

[ctrcat]

I'm not holding my breath, but if we lock up the keystones on both offense and defense for the next 5 years in one offseason, well....it just might be alright, after all.

I've said all along the only certainties over the next decade+ are Cam and Luke.  Paying TOO much for TOO many guys like the Seahawks just did leaves zero draft/injury/FA/suspension/et al margin for error and a truckload of absolute jabronies at multiple positions as the world will soon see with their absolute Swiss Cheese OL and zero DT depth.

Can't wait for Luke to put ink to paper.

[nctarheel0619]

I've said all along the only certainties over the next decade+ are Cam and Luke.  Paying TOO much for TOO many guys like the Seahawks just did leaves zero draft/injury/FA/suspension/et al margin for error and a truckload of absolute jabronies at multiple positions as the world will soon see with their absolute Swiss Cheese OL and zero DT depth.

Can't wait for Luke to put ink to paper.

If Gettleman continues to hit on the Draft, it won't even matter.

[ctrcat]

If Gettleman continues to hit on the Draft, it won't even matter.

Agree.  Lock up our QB on offense, QB on D, (who are both on GOAT trajectory), turn the keys over to the genius, and it's all over but the cryin'.

[thefuzz]

Agree.  Lock up our QB on offense, QB on D, (who are both on GOAT trajectory), turn the keys over to the genius, and it's all over but the cryin'.

I see this tossed around a bit, and I just can't get behind it.  Luke is starting down that path and is keeping pace, Cam however is not.  That's not a knock on him, but when talking about QB's.....GOAT talk is awfully homerish.

Let's see both of them as 8-10 year vets, and go from there.

[PhillyB]

I see this tossed around a bit, and I just can't get behind it.  Luke is starting down that path and is keeping pace, Cam however is not.  That's not a knock on him, but when talking about QB's.....GOAT talk is awfully homerish.

Let's see both of them as 8-10 year vets, and go from there.

at his current rate of production, a 12-year career for cam would land him 51,000 all purpose yards. his passing yardage would be at 43500, good enough for 11th all time, over dan fouts and just behind drew bledsoe. a 14-year career at that rate would push him past john elway.

yards is far from the only GOAT metric but cam has done some pretty special stuff so far

[nctarheel0619]

I see this tossed around a bit, and I just can't get behind it.  Luke is starting down that path and is keeping pace, Cam however is not.  That's not a knock on him, but when talking about QB's.....GOAT talk is awfully homerish.

Let's see both of them as 8-10 year vets, and go from there.

Cam has a longgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg way to go before we can even consider the GOAT talk.  poo, in my opinion hes got to at least be Top 5 before we start that talk.  Right now he's an enigma for us as Panther fans.  He can make all the throws a bad ass NFL QB can make.  The issues with Cam are his dumb ass decisions he makes, lack of dumping the ball off, and footwork problems, which are all so damn aggravating to us.  If he can work on the first two, his progression will be immense.  Because the third one looks set in stone.  Roast me all you want (not just you @thefuzz.  I don't really care.  

[Mr. Scot]

at his current rate of production, a 12-year career for cam would land him 51,000 all purpose yards. his passing yardage would be at 43500, good enough for 11th all time, over dan fouts and just behind drew bledsoe. a 14-year career at that rate would push him past john elway.

yards is far from the only GOAT metric but cam has done some pretty special stuff so far

Rules and rule enforcement being what they are these days though, even average quarterbacks are capable of putting up gaudy numbers. That's one of many reasons why I don't put a lot of stock in stats when we're talking about the quality of a player.

Heck, a guy like Matt Stafford could easily wind up in the upper echelon of yardage leaders, but I absolutely wouldn't want Stafford as the cornerstone to my franchise.

For Cam to truly distinguish himelf, he'll need to prove himself to be a consistent winner.  Obviously that's not all on him, but it will go a long way toward how people judge him.

On that front, I do feel like the team is doing a good job of putting quality players around him.

Scheme though? Eeeeeehhh...

[nctarheel0619]

Rules and rule enforcement being what they are these days though, even average quarterbacks are capable of putting up gaudy numbers. That's one of many reasons why I don't put a lot of stock in stats when we're talking about the quality of a player.

Heck, a guy like Matt Stafford could easily wind up in the upper echelon of yardage leaders, but I absolutely wouldn't want Stafford as the cornerstone to my franchise.

For Cam to truly distinguish himelf, he'll need to prove himself to be a consistent winner.  Obviously that's not all on him, but it will go a long way toward how people judge him.

On that front, I do feel like the team is doing a good job of putting quality players around him.

Scheme though? Eeeeeehhh...

Stafford already has put up 5,000 yards in one season.  So you're right.  

[Mother Grabber]

at his current rate of production, a 12-year career for cam would land him 51,000 all purpose yards. his passing yardage would be at 43500, good enough for 11th all time, over dan fouts and just behind drew bledsoe. a 14-year career at that rate would push him past john elway.

yards is far from the only GOAT metric but cam has done some pretty special stuff so far

you forgot his 5 Super Bowl mvp awards

[RelaxImaPro]

I don't understand why some of you are so eager to want to pay Luke, a 4-3 LBer, $13-15 million per year.  You do realize that would be an absolutely terrible contract for us, right?  Especially considering the market was literally just set for 4-3 LBers with the Wagner and David contracts.

You know what the highest per year average for a 4-3 LBer is right now?  $10.5 million.  Lol, I love Luke, and he is indeed the best... but he's not getting $3-5+ million per year more than the next highest guy.  That would be fuging nonsensical, and it's how you end right back up in cap hell.

It seems we've got a bunch of regular Marty Hurney's around here.

[Mother Grabber]

I don't understand why some of you are so eager to want to pay Luke, a 4-3 LBer, $13-15 million per year.  You do realize that would be an absolutely terrible contract for us, right?  Especially considering the market was literally just set for 4-3 LBers with the Wagner and David contracts.

You know what the highest per year average for a 4-3 LBer is right now?  $10.5 million.  Lol, I love Luke, and he is indeed the best... but he's not getting $3-5+ million per year more than the next highest guy.  That would be fuging nonsensical, and it's how you end right back up in cap hell.

It seems we've got a bunch of regular Marty Hurney's around here.

let's bump it up 30-50% just because

[SOJA]

I've always wanted to panic over nothing.

 

Luke doesn't want to stay in Charlotte. Dave is setting him up for failure by not giving him the tools he needs to succeed. Luke wants to go to a bigger market for not exposure.

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